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    Quote Originally Posted by Skang View Post
    that is correct.

    sorry for confusion. i was asking what if i ship to WA gun shop. do they still charge tax? even i paid/brought from on-line?

    It's not always a simple answer, and varies state to state. Here in FL, you are supposed to pay sales tax on online out of state purchases, but the burden is on you, and honestly no one actually pays it. I guess if they found out about it, they could make you pay.


    Rainier Arms is a great vendor of Noveske, and they sell below the MSRP, and have cheap flat rate shipping. But they are in WA, so I am sure they would charge you taxes. Maybe you can pick up directly from them? Save the shipping and FFL transfer...

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    Quote Originally Posted by Skang View Post
    that is correct.

    sorry for confusion. i was asking what if i ship to WA gun shop. do they still charge tax? even i paid/brought from on-line?
    The rule of thumb is that if it's bought online and your billing information is from another state, there's no sales tax involved. If it's bought online from a store IN your state and billed to you (i.e. your card/billing address) IN your state, you pay sales tax. For example, I purchased some computer parts from newegg.com. The order was shipped from Memphis, TN (same state as me), so I payed a hefty $200 in sales tax. I purchased my Noveske rifle directly from Noveske in OR and, since it's not the same state as my billing information, I didn't pay sales tax.

    Obviously there are some exceptions and some online vendors charge sales tax if you're from X state (even if they aren't), but those are individual cases. If it's that big of a concern for you and you don't want to trust the "rule," just give the vendor a call - I'm sure they'd be happy to answer your questions for you.

    Also, be aware that most states have a mandatory tax clause stating that you have a legal obligation to report all out-of-state purchases when you do your yearly taxes so that you can pay YOUR state the sales tax you didn't pay when you purchased your merchandise out of state. Virtually no one adheres to this rule, but just be aware of it.
    Last edited by Skyyr; 03-30-10 at 09:33.

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    My FFL holder cuts me a deal to help offset sales tax and shipping if I buy directly from him, effectively making it a wash whether I buy from him or Noveske. Otherwise, if I buy a gun online and do the transfer through him, all I pay is a transfer fee plus whatever the gun costs and shipping.
    Last edited by spamsammich; 03-30-10 at 12:20.

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    Just CALL Noveske, order it and pay for it directly with them, and they will ship it to your FFL.
    Your final fees should be:
    MSRP with Noveske
    $15 shipping
    FFL Fee + NICS (Some places it's all one flat fee - like $25.00)

    So if MSRP + $40 is less than the local price + tax + NICS , then buying direct from Noveske is the better deal.

    Also, you will have it the next day.

    I bought mine directly from Noveske. I called 'em up and paid with a CC. My FFL had it the next morning

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    I'm from WA and have purchased all of my ARs online.

    There are two reasons for this: 1, most of my local shops don't carry what I want or try to convince me that the Oly or DPMS on the wall is just as good as the DDM4 or KAC I am shopping for, or 2, they are so absurdly overpriced I'd be a moron to buy from them (how does $2400 for a DDM4 sound?).

    Sale taxes in WA are 8.5-9.5%, so figure 10% to make the math easy. If you buy locally you are at Price of Rifle + 10% tax = out the door price.

    Shipping a rifle is usually $25-50. Transfer fees are about $30-35 locally. So if you buy on line, you are Price of Rifle + $25 shipping + $30 transfer = out the door price. You skip the tax if you buy from an out of state vendor, and if the vendor does not have a facility or store in WA. G&R tactical, SGCUSA, Clyde Armory, etc are all tax free in WA state.

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    Thanks for the good info's guys.

    looks like iam gonna order it from Online. save tax and gas money

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    I too am from Washington state and ordered my AR-15 online. I did not pay sales tax on the purchase. I had to have it shipped to the FFL near my house though. Once you make the purchase online, you will have to call your FFL and have them fax their FFL License to the company you bought your firearm from. The firearm will then be shipped to the FFL and you pick it up from there. That is when you have to pay the FFL transfer fee, which in my case was $25 + tax which totaled to $27.50. This transfer fee varies so make sure you call the FFL, for example, one storefront charges $50 transfer fee for firearms they do not stock, $100 for firearms they do sell. So call around and find the most reasonable one in your area. HTH.

    MotoServDog

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