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    Quote Originally Posted by Joeywhat View Post
    Does Pro Mag make ANYTHING that's worth a damn?
    Yes.

    On Amicus's advice, I got a ProMag carry-handle scope mount for my AR. I use to occasionally mount a scope (not for serious purposes). Amicus was right: it works well, and in some ways it's nicer than the similar Leupold piece that cost 3x as much.

    I also have a ProMag rubber buttpad on my rifle right now. I'm not proud of this, but it IS perfect.

    Since we're on the subject of bargains, I have a UTG rail mount for a flashlight on my gun, too. I'm not proud to have put UTG stuff on my gun, either, but it was cheap, and it's perfect, too.

    Would I buy ProMag sights, or magazines? No. But for stuff like this, ProMag is fine.

    Bimmer

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    Quote Originally Posted by nozzle13 View Post
    Cool deal that's the kind of info I wanted to hear.

    Evidently it is.
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    just skip on eating out a few times and get what the cool guys in school are getting, the arms #40 lsp
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    Quote Originally Posted by CarlosDJackal View Post
    They do wobble side-to-side a bit.
    I have never had a problem with them falling off, getting in the way, or loosing zero. YMMV.
    WTF This makes tons of sense.

    OP you obviously were already decided on them. Why waste peoples time.
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    We have had several of these "What do you guys think about, (insert crappy brand here)?" Threads pop up lately. It seems like they always turn into the OP defending a bad decision that they have already made. What the hell is going on around here lately? Don't waste our time if you're not looking for a 100% unvarnished opinion. We don't really care about making you feel cool just because you bought a new toy.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Joeywhat View Post
    Does Pro Mag make ANYTHING that's worth a damn? I don't think I've ever owned a product of theirs that actually worked.
    Honestly, I've had really good luck with their 10- and 20-round Mini-14 magazines. Those are the only ProMag items I have experienced. Wait, I take that back. I think my first VFG, an $8 broomhandle, was a ProMag item. It needed a fair amount of filing before it would slide onto the rail, but it did work fine on my 9mm AR.


    Quote Originally Posted by mtdawg169 View Post
    We have had several of these "What do you guys think about, (insert crappy brand here)?" Threads pop up lately. It seems like they always turn into the OP defending a bad decision that they have already made. What the hell is going on around here lately? Don't waste our time if you're not looking for a 100% unvarnished opinion. We don't really care about making you feel cool just because you bought a new toy.
    "What do you guys think about (a component OP will buy, but seeks validation/approval from the masses first)?"
    "Which rifle should I buy?"
    "Which (insert any component here) should I buy?"
    'What's the best (insert any component here)?"
    "Critique my (build, build plan, rifle, component purchase)!"

    Each time a thread like the above is posted, thousands of babies - humans, puppies, bunnies, kitties, etc - are killed instantly. Do you really want to be a baby killer? No? Then think about your topic a bit before hitting that New Thread button. Type your query into The Google first, and see what you come up with. Do your own research, compile information, and make your own educated decision. Do your own homework. If after that you still have trouble deciding, you'll at least equipped to compose a more detailed and substantial query.

    I believe mtdawg169 is correct when he believes that whoever is asking the question has already made their decision. But I think they ask anyways as an attempt to gain attention or acceptance to bolster their own insecuritiy.
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    Quote Originally Posted by mtdawg169 View Post
    We have had several of these "What do you guys think about, (insert crappy brand here)?" Threads pop up lately. It seems like they always turn into the OP defending a bad decision that they have already made. What the hell is going on around here lately? Don't waste our time if you're not looking for a 100% unvarnished opinion. We don't really care about making you feel cool just because you bought a new toy.
    Quote Originally Posted by hikeeba View Post
    I believe mtdawg169 is correct when he believes that whoever is asking the question has already made their decision. But I think they ask anyways as an attempt to gain attention or acceptance to bolster their own insecuritiy.
    This attitude is ridiculous, and unfortuneately, prevelant in quite a few members here. The OP asked a question regarding the functionality of a piece of equipment based on experience. That is what this forum is for, the exchange of information, knowledge, and ideas. Almost nobody gave him a straight answer, or had the information he was looking for.

    Feel cool because you bought a new toy?

    Bolster their own insecurity?

    Are you kidding? Are you psychologists as well as a uber gun experts?

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    what were you reading?

    the op asked a question and didnt like the answer. if you dont like the truth get bent

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    Quote Originally Posted by rifleman2000 View Post
    Are you psychologists as well as a uber gun experts?
    No, but I can read. Allow me to sum this thread up for you.

    OP posts about a product. Two people reply with firsthand information that they are crap. OP replies that he believes the company puts out some crappy products but this one is ok. Another replies that he has the product and it's serviceable. OP thanks the guy with the good opinion of the product.

    Clearly he's looking to validate the idea that he already has. This is a well known psychological tendency called the Confirmation Bias. People make up their minds first, then ask for "advice" to validate their opinions.
    Principles matter.

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    I'm not a shrink or an expert. However, I have had experience with the product he asked about and gave an honest opinion about its generally crappy quality. Some posted their opinion without having experience. Others, posted their qualified opinions in an effort to help the OP avoid wasting his time & money. His response was to ignore a majority of good information. My point is, don't ask if you really don't want an honest answer.

    The bottom line is these sights are crap. At a minimum I would expect a buis to lock into place solidly, these don't. How do I know? I shot a rifle wearing them last weekend and they are verifiably, junk. That is apparently ok with some people, but not me. I'm not a gear snob, but there is a difference between crap accessories designed to cash in on the AR trend and true, serviceable gear.

    My post above is my observation of a recent trend on M4C. More & more folks asking relatively basic questions and getting their feelings hurt when the most experienced folks in the industry give them an honest opinion about their gear, warts & all. As I said, I'm no expert, but there are PLENTY of them around here. Their opinions should not be lightly dismissed, there is a depth of knowledge here that surpasses most forums. That experience generally leads to a good idea of what works and what doesn't.

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