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Thread: Elcan Specter RD Red Dot Sight Model A: A First Impression

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    Elcan Specter RD Red Dot Sight Model A: A First Impression

    A Friend of mine recently acquired one of these sights from Botach Tactical (While they allegedly have a spotty record for CS, the several purchases I have made through them have gone without a hitch YMMV). We were unable to find any reviews for this item on line and bought it based primarily on Elcan’s reputation for good glass and rugged optics.
    Price was $ 450.00 which included the mount, 1 battery and the instruction booklet.

    Precise details and specifications can be found here. http://www.botachtactical.com/elcanspecterrd.html

    This is the red dot version of the Elcan Specter OS Tactical Sight. The RD came in a simple plain white cardboard box with a foam egg-crate liner. Inside was the sight, one CR 123 lithium battery and an instruction book.

    Built by Elcan of Canada, the RD uses a common CR 123 battery with 6 year constant on battery life, is waterproof to 66 feet, highly shock resistant, night vision capable, has an included mount and can be adapted to either an AR carry handle or (probably) any ACOG compatible mount.

    The one piece anodized aluminum body certainly seems to be built like a tank! It appears to have very solid construction all around with a finish that closely matches that of the BCM upper it was mounted on. The glass is clear and bright edge to edge. The red dot is well defined from the lowest visible setting to a very bright slightly blooming maximum setting that was more than enough to be visible on the brightest sunny day. On a well lit indoor range setting 7 was perfect. Outdoors in bright noonday sun 12 was just right and 14 was overkill.

    The battery compartment is marked on the outer housing with a ‘battery” diagram to indicate which end is inserted. The cap is a combination of aluminum and high strength polymer. It is heavily fluted for grasping and has a deep slot cut in it in case you need to apply more torque than can be generated by fingers. Not a bad idea considering you may only be opening it once every six years!

    From the front view you can also see that the bottom of the RD is machined to fit in the top slot of an AR carry handle (just like the bottom of an ACOG) It is held into the included mount by 2 bolts While I neglected to measure it, it seems to be the same distance center to center as a standard ACOG, so any mounts that fit the ACOG should fit the RD.

    What appear to be accessory rails at 12 and 3 o clock are not metal but actually rubberbabybuggybumpers with a soft core and MS 113 slotted hard polymer tops. Their primary purpose is to protect the external adjustment knobs of the Model B RD sight. As this is the model A with screw on caps over coin slot adjustment dials these bumpers are superfluous and could be removed as they are held in place by two small bolts each.

    The included mount is made of aluminum with steel clamping plates running the entire length of the mount body and a nylon thumb screw to draw the whole affair in tight. The thumb screw is captive so when fully unscrewed it comes to a stop and you won’t loose any pieces in the field. The instructions warn that you should only tighten “finger tight” and not use any tools on the knob. This mount provides an absolute co-witness using a folding Magpul BUS rear sight.

    The illumination adjustment is at the 5 o clock position in the form of a deeply fluted polymer knob. Other than a scribed line on the knob that aligns with the inscribed “off” mark on the RD body there are no numbers to indicate which of the 14 brightness levels the RD is set on. There is an arrow pointing clockwise with the inscription “brighter” to remind you which way to turn the knob. I found the knob to be tricky to access (I’m spoiled by my T1) but it moves with a positive tactile feedback “click” for each position. Without any reference numbers, we had to go back to “off” and count up to know what brightness level we were on.

    We initially zeroed by aligning the dot with the iron sights. The adjustment dials provide audible and tactile click adjustments of ˝ MOA. Once the RD was zeroed at 100 yds, we removed and re mounted the sight 5 times, each time firing 3 rounds at target 100yds away. It did not loose zero.

    The finger knob was easy to use in both removing and remounting the sight. While it stayed solidly in place during the test, I am concerned that under hard use it might be bumped and loosen. I would prefer to replace this with a LaRue QD or a permanent mount using slotted cross bolts.

    The instruction book says you can add a kill flash inside the objective bell and a flip cap should fit on the outside with no problem. The ocular bell is short and has a radiused rubber ring that seems to be to short to hold a flip cap.

    Overall I think the RD is a quality piece of kit and a bargain at this price. It’s solidly constructed and functional. I wouldn’t hesitate to use the RD as a first tier red dot sight that provides a more affordable alternative to an Aimpoint M series.

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    Great write up! I've always wondered about thier RD model. I've read that some Elcan scopes have/had issues holding zero. By the way, the reticle is just a plain dot, correct?

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    Yes, the reticule is a plain red dot. Officially it's a 3 MOA, but to me it seems slightly smaller. When I put it on a 3" black bull at 100 yds I still saw an obvious black ring around the dot.

    Elcan also makes the Specter OS on the same body. The OS has 3X magnification and an illuminated BDC range-finding reticule. Here is some information about it. http://www.botachtactical.com/elsp30.html

    IIRC, the zeroing issues were with some of the earlier DR series and has since been resolved.

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    Thanks for the review. This is the first I have seen of this one. It sounds like a winner though. I may pick one up and try it out. Less $$ than an eo-tech and one 123 battery lasts 6 years, instead of 600 hrs. As long as its solid, there really is not a down side that I can see.

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    I agree Hitman,

    I would like to see a "professional" review of this optic. Someone who would really torture test it to see how it held up in extreme environments and circumstances.
    I'd be especially interested in how the mount holds up as the integrity of it's knob was my only concern with this optic.

    As one of the big selling points for me was overall price, that would be compromised if you had to replace the mount.

    Strange how this has been available from several online sources for months and yet there have been no reviews of it cropping up from the usual sources. I would have thought that Defense Review and others would have had something to say by now.

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    Quote Originally Posted by steven58 View Post
    IIRC, the zeroing issues were with some of the earlier DR series and has since been resolved.
    Those issues were not with the optic, it was with the idiots that couldn't RTFM.

    You don't take a device designed to be zeroed @ 100m on the 4x setting, put it on 1x and try to zero it at whatever distance, and expect the BDC to match the random setting it just had put on it. Science!

    That said, the ARMS mounts on the DR series are not at all helpful.
    Contractor scum, AAV

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    Have you tried to put it on a mini Acog mount yet?

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    My customers use them, so I'm familiar with them, but do not own one. To pricey for a redundant capability to things I can get for free, and it also weighs a metric assload more. Good glass, VERY tough, but the weight and price are both too much. If I were cross-decking between 5.56 and 7.62 a lot, that'd make the difference, since the DR comes with the exact same configuration reticle tuned to each caliber. Easy transition.

    Anyhow...

    As for this red-dot of theirs, didn't know they were doing these. It could be a good analogue for the Aimpoint M2/M3 series, for the price. 13.7oz with mount means it's still heavy as nuts compared to the Comps or an EO with mount, but given how bombproof Elcan builds their stuff and that price, it may be worthwhile. I'd prefer a smaller dot, but design compromises are what they are.

    I may need to make a call to a pal of a pal.
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    Hitman,
    It's not my optic but if it was I'd put it in a LaRue QD mount. I think it would require a full size ACOG mount as the Elcan RD has 2 bolts on it's belly. the compact ACOGs (like my TA33) use a single bolt.

    The owner wants to see if the included mount will work. One of the reasons he bought it was the $$ savings of the mount being included.

    Riverine,

    While some of the DR series are relatively heavy the RD ain't that bad

    The Elcan RD weighs 390 gr. with mount.

    An Aimpoint Comp M4 weighs 335 gr. with mount

    An Aimpoint Comp M3 is 220 gr. + 134 ish for a QD mount = 354 Gr.

    If you take the 2 rubber bumpers and the 4 mounting bolts off then the Elcan RD weighs 333 gr. (on my crappy scale).

    Unfortunately, my friend thinks they look cool so they are staying.

    So if you can live with a 3 moa dot (It looks like a 2.5 moa, tops, to me) The Elcan is a good deal.

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    Quote Originally Posted by steven58 View Post
    Unfortunately, my friend thinks they look cool so they are staying.
    LOL we've all been there.
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