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    Quote Originally Posted by dwood67 View Post
    I understand and agree with your first sentence.

    But could you run the rest by me again in layman terms please. I'm new to this game and don't have the jargon down.

    Just when I was ready to settle on the LE6920.

    Thanks
    Keep in mind that SBR's are illegal in MI (assuming that is where you're from), so permanently pinning the flash hider on a 14.5" or going for a 16" barrel are your only real options.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Skyyr View Post
    Keep in mind that SBR's are illegal in MI (assuming that is where you're from), so permanently pinning the flash hider on a 14.5" or going for a 16" barrel are your only real options.
    Thanks for this information. Yes I'm in Michigan.

    There's a chance I may move to West Tennessee in the future. Are SBR's allowed in Tennessee ?
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    Quote Originally Posted by dwood67 View Post
    Much better, thanks.
    as per your original post, i'll also include, in case you don't already know:

    the National Firearms Act of 1934 requires that all "title 1" (unregistered, privately owned weapons) have a minimum 16" barrel. so all complete, non-title 2 (registered with the BATF, commonly referred to as "NFA guns") rifles come with a minimum 16.1" barrel installed. the 6921 is an NFA gun... in order to by an un-modified 6921, you need to file a Form 4 with the BATF, pay a $200 fee, and wait 2-6 months for approval. if you buy a regular Colt M4 lower receiver, and buy a 6921 upper seperately, you can then have a 1.7" muzzle device (not all MDs meet this minimum length) pinned/welded to the barrel, bringing it to full title-1 legal length. to save on waiting potentially 6 months before you can take possession of the weapon, if you wanted to "SBR" it, you can do the latter, and then file an ATF Form 1 (to MAKE an SBR), have your gun and shoot it while you wait for approval, and then once you receive your returned/approved Form 1, have the muzzle device removed and/or buy additional short-barreled upper receivers.

    in case you're not aware of the applicable laws/procedures involved with 14.5" barreled gun.s

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    Quote Originally Posted by Skyyr View Post
    Keep in mind that SBR's are illegal in MI (assuming that is where you're from), so permanently pinning the flash hider on a 14.5" or going for a 16" barrel are your only real options.
    Quote Originally Posted by dwood67 View Post
    Thanks for this information. Yes I'm in Michigan.
    ah.. lame. no SBR for you.

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    Quote Originally Posted by bkb0000 View Post
    as per your original post, i'll also include, in case you don't already know:

    the National Firearms Act of 1934 requires that all "title 1" (unregistered, privately owned weapons) have a minimum 16" barrel. so all complete, non-title 2 (registered with the BATF, commonly referred to as "NFA guns") rifles come with a minimum 16.1" barrel installed. the 6921 is an NFA gun... in order to by an un-modified 6921, you need to file a Form 4 with the BATF, pay a $200 fee, and wait 2-6 months for approval. if you buy a regular Colt M4 lower receiver, and buy a 6921 upper seperately, you can then have a 1.7" muzzle device (not all MDs meet this minimum length) pinned/welded to the barrel, bringing it to full title-1 legal length. to save on waiting potentially 6 months before you can take possession of the weapon, if you wanted to "SBR" it, you can do the latter, and then file an ATF Form 1 (to MAKE an SBR), have your gun and shoot it while you wait for approval, and then once you receive your returned/approved Form 1, have the muzzle device removed and/or buy additional short-barreled upper receivers.

    in case you're not aware of the applicable laws/procedures involved with 14.5" barreled gun.s
    Thanks for the additional info. I believe I'll start with a LE6920 and go from there. I don't want to pay the government any more than I already do and I don't want to have to file any special form with them either. I wish they'd forget that I exist.

    Does the above apply to shotgun's ? If memory serves, isn't an 18" shotgun barrel minimum ?
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    you can't SBR from michigan, but none of these rules apply if you have a permed 14.5. i have, and have had many, non-SBR/non-NFA 14.5 guns with permed muzzle devices.

    all the same rules for shotguns, but you're correct- the non-NFA legal minimum is 18
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    Quote Originally Posted by bkb0000 View Post
    i have no use for 16" guns.. they serve only to add weight and length to conform to a ****ing retarded, unconstitutional law.
    Yeah but think of all that velocity you're losing.
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    Quote Originally Posted by dwood67 View Post
    Thanks for this information. Yes I'm in Michigan.

    There's a chance I may move to West Tennessee in the future. Are SBR's allowed in Tennessee ?
    Yes =) We're VERY gun-friendly here. We also allow ownership of pre-ban machine guns and silencers. No switchblades though =(

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    I Built a LE6921 Upper and Permed the FH and put it on a Match Target Lower .I hope Alabama will Vote on the SBR repeal soon and then 200 off to the ATF.

    I really tried to Get closest to what I trained and carried in the Army .Just missing the go fast switch.But it is One of the Best ARs I have owned, I like the way it handles Better than the 6920, some notice the the different feel, some don't
    I Love My Colt and so will you
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    Quote Originally Posted by dwood67 View Post
    Looking for opinions.

    I'm buying either a LE6920 or LE6921. I need to decide between the two.

    The main difference I know is bbl. length, 16" vs. 14.5" .

    What is the difference in price and availability?

    Am I missing anything.

    Any thoughts ?
    This is the same dilema I am in. I can't have a SBR in my state, but I want to buy a Colt LE 6921 and have the seller pin it for a small fee. Some gentlemen on here told me where to go yesterday, but when I saw the price for a LE 6921 with a pinned barrel at the site they told me, It was almost 2 grand

    I mean Knesekguns has a Colt 6921 for only $1,450. I know a perm. flash hider job dosen't cost $550!

    Who can sell us a pinned LE 6921? Grant? Anyone?

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