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    I have a 14.5 inch pinned Vortex, no regrets. Get a DD Omega 7inch or 12.0 FSB, a RDS and it dont get no better. Your only concern should be getting time to shoot it, and money to pay for ammo and classes. The upper is perfect.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Pappabear View Post
    I have a 14.5 inch pinned Vortex, no regrets. Get a DD Omega 7inch or 12.0 FSB, a RDS and it dont get no better. Your only concern should be getting time to shoot it, and money to pay for ammo and classes. The upper is perfect.
    How is he gonna put a DD 12.0 FSB on with a pinned muzzle device? The 12.0 FSB uses a proprietary barrel nut that requires removal of the FSB and muzzle device for installation.

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    Quote Originally Posted by spamsammich View Post
    How is he gonna put a DD 12.0 FSB on with a pinned muzzle device? The 12.0 FSB uses a proprietary barrel nut that requires removal of the FSB and muzzle device for installation.
    Yeah iv put some thought in this. I'd have to take of the flash hider, then replace or shave my fixed front sight. Eithe way it sounds way above my know how. Maybe if I could shave the front tower down and not have to mod anything else, I might cosider doing it myself.

    I'd also not want to bring the value of the upper down, and shaving the tower down would probably effect it a little. But why break or destory a already good thing. This Magpul MOE handguard might have to be it. All I need is some way to attach a flash light and maybe a grip, which the MOE will allow.

    Scott

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    It's a brand new rifle - step away from the dremel and leave the FSB alone! An excellent setup is an Aimpoint set to co-witness with your irons. Your next rifle will probably have a longer barrel, anyway.

    If you want a rail, the 7" Omega will install w/o removing anything. Mine is a Noveske N4 Reece Basic (16") with a 9" Omega rail, but you get the picture. The mount gives a 1/3 lower co-witness, btw.


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    Quote Originally Posted by scottd907 View Post
    I'd also not want to bring the value of the upper down, and shaving the tower down would probably effect it a little.
    Scott
    No, it would destroy the value of the upper altogether.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Skyyr View Post
    No, it would destroy the value of the upper altogether.
    I really hope you're being sarcastic, or your statement is just idiotic. It might not seem like a nice thing to say, but there's really no other way of saying it.
    Last edited by Whootsinator; 04-12-10 at 17:44.

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    Quote Originally Posted by shootist~ View Post
    It's a brand new rifle - step away from the dremel and leave the FSB alone! An excellent setup is an Aimpoint set to co-witness with your irons. Your next rifle will probably have a longer barrel, anyway.

    If you want a rail, the 7" Omega will install w/o removing anything. Mine is a Noveske N4 Reece Basic (16") with a 9" Omega rail, but you get the picture. The mount gives a 1/3 lower co-witness, btw.

    Quote Originally Posted by Skyyr View Post
    No, it would destroy the value of the upper altogether.
    Yeah I'm pretty sure there will be no cutting or trimming on the rifle. It's such a great shoot without optics, im probably going to stick with the irons and invest in a decent FF 2 pc rail. I do like the extended rail DD makes for carbine gas systems.

    Again thank you for sharif your .02 cents in the matter,

    Scott

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    Quote Originally Posted by Whootsinator View Post
    I really hope you're being sarcastic, or your statement is just idiotic. It might not seem like a nice thing to say, but there's really no other way of saying it.
    The majority of the Noveske's value comes from it's off-the-shelf boutique-like pricing coupled with the quality in which it was assembled. In other words, they're commercial parts put together after the fact by professionals and people pay for that fact. If you put an all-Noveske-parts self-built gun next to a Noveske-built Noveske rifle, the factory built will ALWAYS sell for more (unless of course, the parts gun is a licensed Noveske dealer), as well as carry a warranty.

    If you cut down the FSB, you've just destroyed any value the upper had as a Noveske upper. The rails are not optimal for sight radius, so you'll need a new rail if you want to use BUIS (otherwise, it was absolutely stupid to cut it down). The flash-hider is also permanently pinned, meaning a new FSB can't be replaced by any future buyers without having to buy a new FH, drill, weld, and refinish it.

    By the time you payed to get the gun back to like-new condition (or even just have a new FSB), you're out $200. Coupled with the fact that it's used, you're losing another $200-300. That's $500 of value lost simply from cutting down the FSB. You're better off selling it as parts (barrel, rails, etc) and recouping the money that way.

    Like I said, you'll destroy it's value.
    Last edited by Skyyr; 04-12-10 at 18:01.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Skyyr View Post
    The majority of the Noveske's value comes from it's off-the-shelf boutique-like pricing coupled with the quality in which it was assembled. In other words, they're commercial parts put together after the fact by professionals and people pay for that fact. If you put an all-Noveske-parts self-built gun next to a Noveske-built Noveske rifle, the factory built will ALWAYS sell for more (unless of course, the parts gun is a licensed Noveske dealer), as well as carry a warranty.

    If you cut down the FSB, you've just destroyed any value the upper had as a Noveske upper. The rails are not optimal for sight radius, so you'll need a new rail if you want to use BUIS (otherwise, it was absolutely stupid to cut it down). The flash-hider is also permanently pinned, meaning a new FSB can't be replaced by any future buyers without having to buy a new FH, drill, weld, and refinish it.

    By the time you payed to get the gun back to like-new condition (or even just have a new FSB), you're out $200. Coupled with the fact that it's used, you're losing another $200-300. That's $500 of value lost simply from cutting down the FSB. You're better off selling it as parts (barrel, rails, etc) and recouping the money that way.

    Like I said, you'll destroy it's value.
    So a used 14.5in Noveske Basic Carbine with a shaved front sight block is only worth $700? I just don't believe that to be true. But, maybe that is all it's worth to you.

    I'd rather not argue about it, because it just comes down to what you would value something at and what I would value something at, and I don't believe either of us will ever see the same thing.
    Last edited by Whootsinator; 04-12-10 at 18:14.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Whootsinator View Post
    So a used 14.5in Noveske Basic Carbine with a shaved front sight block is only worth $700? I just don't believe that to be true. But, maybe that is all it's worth to you.
    It should be between $875 - 775, not $700 [$1,275 - 400 = $875 and $1,275 - 500 = $775]. I don't think that's unreasonable at all.

    And yes, I'd rather spend an extra $400-500 on an upper (in fact, I have) to know it was put together correctly instead of buying one that had its FSB sloppily dremeled off and touched up with a sharpie, and God knows what else done to it.
    Last edited by Skyyr; 04-12-10 at 18:21.

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