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Thread: AR Factory Handguards vs. MOE

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    Quote Originally Posted by rob_s View Post
    Believe it or not, a Daniel Defense M4 rail or Lite rail 9.0 over a shaved-down FSB as gas block and with a Troy flipup or DD fixed front sight attached weighs almost the EXACT same thing as a set of M4 handguards and a stock FSB. I, of course, can't find the photos right this second but I even have pictures showing this. I have a second 6933 that has the DD M4 rails. If you use something like the new Troy Extreme FF tube you could actually wind up SAVING weight over the stock setup! and a FF tube or rail system is a much better attachment point for a VFG.
    You read my mind. My original plan was to replace my FSB with a gas block or to shave down my FSB with the intent of buying the DDM4 rails. Then money became an issue. It really boiled down to either saving weight with the optic by consolidating from an M3 to a T-1 or saving weight through my rail system. I figured that I could do both by purchasing a T-1 and running MOE or factory handguards until I can re-coup from the T-1 purchase.
    What do you think about a G2 with a VLTOR mount( or any non offset mount) attached to the FSB with the tail cap slightly protruding the end of the mount which adds a bit more room for manipulation?
    Its only until we have nothing that we're free to do anything

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    Quote Originally Posted by wes007 View Post
    It really boiled down to either saving weight with the optic by consolidating from an M3 to a T-1 or saving weight through my rail system. I figured that I could do both by purchasing a T-1 and running MOE or factory handguards until I can re-coup from the T-1 purchase.
    FWIW, the H-1 is less expensive and, for our purposes, does everything the T-1 does.

    What do you think about a G2 with a VLTOR mount( or any non offset mount) attached to the FSB with the tail cap slightly protruding the end of the mount which adds a bit more room for manipulation?
    Like this? (I would have pushed the light slightly further forward, pretty much as far as it would go, on a non-SBR)






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    I'm seriously considering doing this when Magpul finally releases the rifle-length MOE. Going on the assumption they'll be -$100, I can sell my Larue 12.0 and still walk away with a new rail system with all the goodies. Sounds like a win-win. I wonder what the rifle-length MOE will weigh...
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    Quote Originally Posted by Selftest View Post
    I'm seriously considering doing this when Magpul finally releases the rifle-length MOE. Going on the assumption they'll be -$100, I can sell my Larue 12.0 and still walk away with a new rail system with all the goodies. Sounds like a win-win. I wonder what the rifle-length MOE will weigh...
    Rifle length not available yet but listed for $37.95. Even if this is a guess, they will be much less than $100.

    http://www.midwayusa.com/viewProduct...tNumber=253204

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    middy and rifle are supposedly coming summer 2010, no exact dates. WTB middy MOE handguard in FDE

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    Quote Originally Posted by msr View Post
    Rifle length not available yet but listed for $37.95. Even if this is a guess, they will be much less than $100.

    http://www.midwayusa.com/viewProduct...tNumber=253204
    The 2010 Magpul catalog has the midlength MOE MSRP at $34.95 and the rifle length at $39.95. Midway is frequently a couple bucks lower than MSRP.

    I am patiently awaiting the midlength MOE, illumination kit and MVG for my new 14.5" BCM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ejeffreyhorn View Post
    The 2010 Magpul catalog has the midlength MOE MSRP at $34.95 and the rifle length at $39.95. Midway is frequently a couple bucks lower than MSRP.

    I am patiently awaiting the midlength MOE, illumination kit and MVG for my new 14.5" BCM.
    Me too...but I'm waiting on the BCM 14.5" middy too...patiently, patiently....

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    Quote Originally Posted by wes007 View Post
    I've decided to sell my Knights RAS and either run MOE or factory handguards.
    WTF???

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    I'm doing the same. The only thing I have attached is a G2 in a VTac mount. I weighed the ras, g2 and vtac mount, came to 1.5lbs.That's atleast a pound that does nothing for me. This will probably endup getting stripped of all doo dads, asap, bad, t-1 etc. and those items put on my new bcm lightweight once they are in stock again.
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    Quote Originally Posted by markm View Post
    WTF???
    That's what I said.

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