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    Quote Originally Posted by Skyyr View Post
    Gotcha. I assumed that where the comment was going, as I've yet to see any sort of validated complaints about the M9/92, aside from its size. I'd be using it for a secondary on carbine courses, so duly noted.

    Just for the personal knowledge, what about HK's in general? Any comments about carrying them? I'm about to get my carry license in June and I've been looking at HK for a CCW. Any specific models to lean towards?

    Sorry for the off-topic nature of my question; this thread just seems to have a lot of good info.
    For HK you going 9MM 40S&W or 45?

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    Quote Originally Posted by kal View Post
    safetyhit, both sites are inferior to wal mart.

    I get wal mart 45 for pretty much 33 cents a round, $16 box.

    Seriously, how the hell does wal mart make money?
    Bult buying power. With how many stores?

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    Quote Originally Posted by 120mm View Post
    The de-cocker/safety whateverthe****itreallyis is just in the wrong place. Snags on everything, and turns on and off seemingly at random. Not acceptable in a serious weapon, imo.


    What specifically does "snags on everything" mean? On what type of gear or what type of instance did you personally experience this repeatedly? I have holstered several Berettas hundreds of times over the years without such incident, ever.

    But there is always that chance I did something wrong, of course. Please kindly clarify for all of us here.
    Last edited by Safetyhit; 04-28-10 at 19:26.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Limey- View Post
    Not a very likely prospect. Despite the misinformation superhighway most street cops are very familier with all manner of firearms and spend a significant time training.
    Not in my experience. I have been pulled over twice and officers asked for my pistol. Both occassions I was carrying a 1911. I had to get the pistol back from both guys and unload them because they had zero understanding of a cocked and locked pistol. As far as the training goes; 99% of the officers in my area come into my range the week of their yrly qualification. That is the only training they do and that is the once a yr cleaning their pistols get. I find more civilians in training classes these days than those in law enforcement.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Safetyhit View Post
    What specifically does "snags on everything" mean? On what type of gear or what type of instance did you personally experience this repeatedly?
    The accidental safety engagement issue is a real problem. At the Langdon class last year I had to do a TRB because I forgot to actually load my gun prior to running the drill, and I ended up doing 4 TRB's in a row because I had inadvertently engaged the safety while manipulating the slide. It took that long for me to figure out what was going on.

    Ernie, ever the professional instructor, used it as a teaching point.

    "...and THAT'S why we made the G model Beretta."

    Slide mounted safeties are less than ideal for that reason. Under stress it can take time for somebody to figure out that the safety is engaged...time they might not have in a gunfight.

    It can be overcome with training, but if someone doesn't specifically train to deal with that problem it can take time for their brain to catch up with what is going on.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ChicagoTex View Post
    The OP bought a 24/7, not a PT1911...
    Sorry, too many hours.
    Independent Field Testing/R & D

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    Quote Originally Posted by ranburr View Post
    Not in my experience. I have been pulled over twice and officers asked for my pistol. Both occassions I was carrying a 1911. I had to get the pistol back from both guys and unload them because they had zero understanding of a cocked and locked pistol. As far as the training goes; 99% of the officers in my area come into my range the week of their yrly qualification. That is the only training they do and that is the once a yr cleaning their pistols get. I find more civilians in training classes these days than those in law enforcement.
    Uh, so you are saying the officers gave your weapon back to you so you could unload it for them? Really?
    Independent Field Testing/R & D

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    Sorry, too many hours.
    No problem, bud. I know what that's like!

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    Quote Originally Posted by 120mm View Post
    And, oh yeah, it serves no real and necessary purpose. Kind of the appendix of the handgun world.
    I personally don't like decockers, but I'm not scared of manually decocking a hammer on a loaded chamber either. From my reading on multiple forums, a lot of people are uncomfortable manually dropping the hammer on a live round. A decocker serves a very real purpose for them.

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    I personally don't like decockers, but I'm not scared of manually decocking a hammer on a loaded chamber either. From my reading on multiple forums, a lot of people are uncomfortable manually dropping the hammer on a live round. A decocker serves a very real purpose for them.
    A lot of us recognize the reality that we may have to decock our carry weapons after a life or death confrontation where the adrenaline is flowing, the fine motor skills have gone to shit, and our hearts are going at 160bpm. With a decocker, we have a 100% chance of decocking safely, without it... the percentage is much lower.

    Call me crazy, but I think I'll stick with 100% success instead of rolling the dice for my own ego.

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