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    South Park Takes Shot At Mohammed, CNN Reports Muslim Threats

    I am no fan of this show, can't stand 2 seconds of it. But for CNN to ask if they have finally "gone too far" because of this is the typical soft-ball, PC bullshit that makes them the spineless "news" outlet they are.

    As far as the man advocating terrorism on the streets of NYC in the article's video, I can't believe someone hasn't dealt with him by now. He proudly advocates that it is his job to spread terror via fear, yet is still somehow protected by the Constitution.

    Our founding fathers would have skinned the co*ksucker alive, but we protect him.


    http://www.cnn.com/2010/SHOWBIZ/TV/0...ex.html?hpt=C2


    Has 'South Park' gone too far this time?
    By Todd Leopold, CNN
    April 21, 2010 6:08 p.m. EDT


    (CNN) -- Nothing is sacred on "South Park."

    This is a show, after all, that once painted God as a gap-toothed rhinoceros-monkey, portrays Satan as a simpering milquetoast and regularly features Jesus as a superhero -- the kind who's not afraid to ignore the peaceful teachings of the Sermon on the Mount to smite his opponents. The show has mocked Jews, Catholics, Mormons, Scientologists and atheists, among (many) others.

    It's a formula that's generally served "South Park" well, allowing it to score comic points by riffing on hypocrisy while emphasizing a message of libertarianism and tolerance, and it's one that goes back to the show's beginnings, points out former Dallas Morning News TV critic Ed Bark, who blogs at UncleBarky.com. After all, he recalls, the show began as a Christmas short violently pitting Santa Claus against Jesus.

    But have they gone too far this time with a depiction of the Prophet Mohammed in a bear suit?

    In the beginning, it wasn't so much the religion that bothered observers but the language used by the series' pint-sized cast, he said.

    "The most shocking thing back then was, you had little kids exercising a vocabulary that you hadn't heard before [from children]," he said. "I go back to the days when [the sitcom] 'Uncle Buck's' 'You suck' was a major point of contention on a CBS sitcom and everybody went crazy about 'how can they have an 8-year-old kid saying this?' And then 'South Park' ratcheted that way up."

    However, the show can still ruffle feathers.

    For its 200th episode April 14 -- the beginning of a two-part story that concludes Wednesday night -- "South Park" creators Matt Stone and Trey Parker decided to go all-in, creating a plot line about free speech in which most everybody the show's ever offended comes back. Among the episode's characters: the Prophet Mohammed, who is first pictured behind a black "censored" bar and later in a bear suit.

    That didn't sit well with Revolution Muslim, an Islamic group that objected to Mohammed's portrayal.

    According to some Muslim traditions, the visual depiction of Mohammed is not allowed.

    "We have to warn Matt and Trey that what they are doing is stupid and they will probably wind up like Theo van Gogh for airing this show," the group said on its website. "This is not a threat, but a warning of the reality that will likely happen to them."

    Islamic group: 'South Park' post a call to protest, not violence

    Van Gogh was the Dutch director who was killed in 2004 by an Islamic extremist. Among his works was "Submission," a short film about abuse of women in Islam.

    The creator of the Revolution Muslim posting said that the group only wants those offended to be able to voice their opposition in letters to the show's creators and that it did not advocate violence.

    "I have no respect for a prophet or god that needs its followers to defend it by threats and murder. 'South Park' should be applauded," Andrew said on the "AC360°" live blog. (Commenters didn't have to supply any more than their first name.)

    "I'm a Muslim that loves the message of the Qur'an dearly, but that is not MY Islam," Erbab added.

    Parker and Stone knew what might be coming. In an interview with the pop culture and tech site BoingBoing.net during production of the 200th show, they acknowledged that Mohammed would be a character but didn't know how he would be portrayed -- or whether Comedy Central, "South Park's" network, would let them show Mohammed at all.

    "If they would let us show it, that would be great," Stone said.

    "We're having fun with the same fight," Parker said.

    Comedy Central had no comment on the controversy, the network said.

    It wasn't the first time Mohammed was featured on the show. In the July 2001 episode "Super Best Friends," he appears as "the Muslim prophet with the powers of flame," along with other religious figures -- Buddha, Moses and Mormon founder Joseph Smith among them -- who help the other "South Park" kids rescue Kyle from a cult devoted to magician David Blaine

    But that, said Stone and Parker, was before September 11, the van Gogh murder and the 2005 Muslim protests over the Danish cartoons that appeared in the newspaper Jyllands-Posten.

    "Now, that's the new normal. Like we lost. Something that was OK is now not OK," Stone said.

    Of course, for a long time, religious mockery on TV wasn't OK either, Bark observed. "Networks used to be loath to even touch religion," he said.

    With rare exceptions ("The Simpsons" the most notable), until the mid-'90s, shows with religious themes -- such as "Highway to Heaven" or "Touched by an Angel" -- stressed earnestness and optimism.

    But in the 500-channel universe, questioning religion, and all that comes with it, is now more acceptable, Bark said.

    "Things are done now that weren't done then," he said.

    If the satire is handled well, there's no reason for Mohammed to be untouchable either, Muslim writer Aziz Poonawalla said on his Beliefnet blog.

    "I don't watch 'South Park,' and likely never will," he wrote. "But I much prefer their attempt at depiction of the Prophet SAW [May Allah's prayers and greetings be upon him], which is rooted in a simple need to assert their creative freedom, rather than any genuine intent to defame or insult Islam -- quite unlike the Danish newspaper cartoons, which were created with only malice in mind."

    Bark remains surprised at the controversy the episode has stirred.

    "Religion is touchy, but ... in this case, since they're lumping all religions [together] -- as usual -- and they've made fun of Jesus [and others], I'm surprised that anybody gets upset anymore over what they do," he said.

    Certainly, Stone and Parker aren't going to suddenly change their attitudes. The pair recently announced a new musical based on the Book of Mormon, and they care too deeply about the "South Park" universe to go soft.

    "You guys aren't afraid to pick at an old scab?" BoingBoing's Xeni Jardin asked.

    "We're 200 shows now, so now what?" Parker responded.
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    They make fun of gays, Catholics, Asians, the Denver Broncos, and now they make fun of a "certain" group and CNN makes a big deal out of it.


    I applaud them for at least not giving a rat's ass what the PC police think. Very rare in this world today.....
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    comedy central caved in and didnt post the episode online also. It's lame that you can have a group send death threats but someone did something back to them its a "hate crime"

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    That's why I love the show, they make fun of everyone! Even the tree hugging, hybrid driving, wild animal loving, PC *(*&^&&^&&*!!!!
    The price of freedom is eternal vigilance.

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    South Park actually made a show about this, however they were trying to get Family Guy fulled for showing Mohammad, because Cartman hated that show.


    I like that South Park seems to be one of the few voices critiquing modern society.

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    South Park does a fine job of exposing hypocrisy and making me laugh. I applaud their stand. I would happily volunteer to help guard their offices.

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    Unfortunately South Park/Comedy Central caved to the threats.

    Apparently you can parody anything but Muhammad.

    How about a little Joe Rogan levity on how to handle the middle east extremists.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Safetyhit View Post
    "We have to warn Matt and Trey that what they are doing is stupid and they will probably wind up like Theo van Gogh for airing this show," the group said on its website. "This is not a threat, but a warning of the reality that will likely happen to them."
    For those who don't know, Theo Van Gogh was murdered by Mouhammed Bouyeri, a Muslim, for producing a film that was critical of how Muslims treat their women.

    Excerpt from Wikipedia:
    Mohammed Bouyeri murdered Van Gogh in the early morning of 2 November 2004, in Amsterdam, in front of the Amsterdam East borough office (stadsdeelkantoor) on the corner of the Linnaeusstraat and Tweede Oosterparkstraat, while he was cycling to work. Bouyeri shot van Gogh eight times with an HS 2000 handgun, and Van Gogh died on the spot. Bouyeri then cut Van Gogh's throat, decapitating him, and stabbed him in the chest. Two knives were left implanted in his torso, one attaching a five-page note to his body. The note (Text) threatened Western governments, Jews and Ayaan Hirsi Ali (who went into hiding) [4][5]. The note also contained references to the ideologies of the Egyptian organization Takfir wal-Hijra.

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    i was a little pissed that in part two they even bleeped out them saying muhammad.

    and for the record, muhammad wasn't even in the bear suit. it was santa claus.
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    They're messing with the wrong American Icon if they attack South Park!
    Last edited by glocktogo; 04-22-10 at 12:26.

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