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    Quote Originally Posted by Iraqgunz View Post
    I agree 100%. Unfortunately when speaking about AR's it seems as if common sense is a f*ckin' superpower.
    I basically categorize it with the people that justify purchasing a Taurus Judge as a "snake gun". As if it were sensible to carry a retarded and otherwise useless pistol for the sole purpose of defending yourself against an animal that one could kill with a rock.

    Firearms purchases rarely make sense for most people. Good for the economy though I suppose.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Dunderway View Post
    It's always seemed like a worse possible case scenario for me, yet most people act like it would be some sort of casual thing.

    ETA: And what is a good price on an Arsenal (which seem to be very high quality) right now? Probably about the same as a bargain bin AR?
    I picked up a gently used SGL-31 for $700 locally, for a freedom group AR you'll be looking at more than that, at least around these parts...and I definitely agree about the worst case scenario...if you're at the point where you feel your sidearm is no longer adequate and you're out and about brandishing an AK/AR with no concern about liability etc, that means that there is something SERIOUSLY crazy happening, or you're on the fast track to a date at the courthouse.

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    Quote Originally Posted by owl View Post
    I built and own two Del Tons. I'm half way through the third box of 1000 rnd boxes on one and half way through the second 1000 rnd box on the other. Not one problem so far. The people at Del Ton were helpful and friendly. I think if you have had personal experience with any product pro or con then you are qualified to speak to that products worthiness. Repeating second hand information from folks that may or may not have an agenda is rather pointless. Information from people who can only say something is good or bad because they own it or their hero owns it is worthless. Do your research get guidence from people who use these type of weapons rather than some faceless name online. let the flames begin!
    A rifle that shoots ammunition of some unknown type, in some type of conditions, with a non specified amount of cleaning or stoppages? How novel. Customer service that is civil about a non specific interaction? No way.

    The only funny thing you mentioned was research because the information provided is pretty much the definition of what research information isn't.

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    so

    Quote Originally Posted by owl View Post
    I built and own two Del Tons. I'm half way through the third box of 1000 rnd boxes on one and half way through the second 1000 rnd box on the other. Not one problem so far. The people at Del Ton were helpful and friendly. I think if you have had personal experience with any product pro or con then you are qualified to speak to that products worthiness. Repeating second hand information from folks that may or may not have an agenda is rather pointless. Information from people who can only say something is good or bad because they own it or their hero owns it is worthless. Do your research get guidence from people who use these type of weapons rather than some faceless name online. let the flames begin!
    By your standards just because you own a product you become a SME? Great, I should expect every person who owns a Merck manual and PDR to be qualified to be my physician. AWESOME....can't wait to see the law suits!
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    Quote Originally Posted by Dunderway View Post
    I've never understood most people's concept of a "truck gun" when discussing the AR platform. I honestly think it's just an excuse to buy a low quality gun show/kit gun. If things ever get serious enough for me to deploy an M4 out of my truck, I sure as hell do not want it to be some bargain bin kit gun.

    Why not just buy a quality AK instead of a third rate AR? There really is no excuse for buying shitty equipment if it will be used for defense.
    QFT

    I'm always interested to know exactly the situation people think they will be deploying a weapon from their vehicle. Deploying a M4 from a vehicle is not as simple as grab it from the back and you're good to go, which a lot of people with the idea of a "truck gun" seem to assume. Anyone who has ever trained for this kind of situation knows that it takes a lot of practice to quickly and smoothly maneuver any kind of rifle inside a vehicle. Even SBRs can feel awkward and clumsy when your range of motion is limited by the interior of most vehicles. Especially if you do not already have it in a ready position when the SHTF.

    If you're looking for something to defend yourself in the event of a car jacking or mugging, take a CC class (if offered in your area) and carry a quality handgun on your person.
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    I can think of a few off the top of my head. I also keep my loaded SBR next to me on the seat when I am alone.

    The rest of your post doesn't even jive with what Dunderway was saying.

    Quote Originally Posted by Happypupy View Post
    QFT

    I'm always interested to know exactly the situation people think they will be deploying a weapon from their vehicle. Deploying a M4 from a vehicle is not as simple as grab it from the back and you're good to go, which a lot of people with the idea of a "truck gun" seem to assume. Anyone who has ever trained for this kind of situation knows that it takes a lot of practice to quickly and smoothly maneuver any kind of rifle inside a vehicle. Even SBRs can feel awkward and clumsy when your range of motion is limited by the interior of most vehicles. Especially if you do not already have it in a ready position when the SHTF.

    If you're looking for something to defend yourself in the event of a car jacking or mugging, take a CC class (if offered in your area) and carry a quality handgun on your person.



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    I too can think of and have had the pleasure of (sarcasm implied) experiancing situations where I have had to deploy my rifle from a vehicle. I was simply pointing out it isn't as easy as some people who use the term "truck gun" may think it is when using it in an offensive/defensive role.

    As far as the rest jiving. Just agreeing that there may be a more sutable weapon choice than a low end AR if vehicle defense was it's intended role. Hence the Quote for Truth.

    Quote Originally Posted by Iraqgunz View Post
    I can think of a few off the top of my head. I also keep my loaded SBR next to me on the seat when I am alone.

    The rest of your post doesn't even jive with what Dunderway was saying.
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    To quote Pat Rogers:

    "There are much better choices.

    Seriously, delton is near the bottom of the barrel.
    Don't look at initial cost, but rather best value."

    For a little over 1k you can get a basic BCM which will be good to go. Or a variety of other reputable makers.

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    Del Ton

    Iraqunz, Let the flames begin was said in humor, Talk about flames and attitude reread your posts on this thread. Respectful disagreement is desireable. If your idea is to make anyone who disagrees with you disappear soon you will be talking to yourself.

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    Edited long winded rant to ask a simple question. Now if one simply upgraded all the critical parts, wouldn't you essentially have a rifle as good as a higher tier? I don't understand these "Lipstick on a pig" comments. Would a lesser rifle, built up with better quality components, be as good? I get the money issue & making a mistake, but lets put that aside for this inquiry.
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