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    Quote Originally Posted by NWPilgrim View Post
    Interesting. I read the Wiki article on WS2 and it says it forms nano tubes (only inorganic substance to do so). Better temperature range than MoS2 (650c versus 400C).

    I might have to try this. Add it to my collection of various lubes (all of which work fine but curiosity gets the best of me).
    nanotubes. interesting stuff...
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    Quote Originally Posted by ra2bach View Post
    as far as I can tell oil is oil. there are some who prefer good old motor oil for the economy and this seems to work well. and then there are the "up-level", gun specific, oils like SLIP, Machinegunners Lube, and Weaponshield, which cost more.

    and then there are the next paradigm lubes like Frog Lube, which goes on wet, dries, and then gets wet again when it heats up. this seems enough of a departure from the "wet" lubes that I believe it's worth a try.

    based on the fact that there is little observable difference between the "wet" lubes, anything which is significantly more expensive is not something I'm willing to try in this category...
    Sounds to me like Frog is like Mad Dog XF-7, posted 4 years up (how many pages ago?) I emailed the creator of Weaponshield who said WS would migrate under the XF-7 and do its job. So I just cut out the middleman and stick with WS.

    He also said Machine Gunners is more for full auto, and for semi WS is the right stuff.
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    Quote Originally Posted by carbinero View Post
    Interesting Fireclean; hadn't heard of that before.

    I noted the instructions say don't use anything else on it...would that be a problem? I hate the whole "degrease to treat" regimine.

    ...as opposed to Weaponshield which says Whatever! the WS will migrate as needed.
    You can send an email to Fireclean to confirm, but I was told to just use Fireclean as a cleaner, wipe clean, then lube with Fireclean.

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    http://www.cleanergun.com/Application.html

    "1) Degrease unloaded gun. ... We do not recommend the use other oils, cleaners, or lubricants once applied."

    Same type routine as xf-7, and Frog, IIRC.

    I prefer a lube that doesn't require degreasing first. IMHO.
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    Quote Originally Posted by NWPilgrim View Post
    Interesting. I read the Wiki article on WS2 and it says it forms nano tubes (only inorganic substance to do so). Better temperature range than MoS2 (650c versus 400C).

    I might have to try this. Add it to my collection of various lubes (all of which work fine but curiosity gets the best of me).
    Interresting.
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    Quote Originally Posted by cav.scout2000 View Post
    It really does work well! I can tell no difference between my lube and slipstream.
    Same smell?

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    Quote Originally Posted by carbinero View Post
    http://www.cleanergun.com/Application.html

    "1) Degrease unloaded gun. ... We do not recommend the use other oils, cleaners, or lubricants once applied."

    Same type routine as xf-7, and Frog, IIRC.

    I prefer a lube that doesn't require degreasing first. IMHO.
    I'm the same way. Militec is what I first used on all of my weapons, so it's what stays on there. Not that I have any complaints with it.

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    The carrier fluid really isn't that important. What is important is the tungsten disulfide. The carrier just gets it where you want it. When it works in it bondson the atomic level up to. 5 microns thick. So even when the carrier lubricant cooks off the nano lubrication is still present.

    Tungsten Disulfide (WS2) is dry/solid lubricant powder and is one of the most lubricious substance in world. WS2 offers excellant dry lubricity (COF: 0.03) unmatched to any other substance, including Graphite or Molybdenum Disulfide (MoS2).

    Tungsten Disulfide (WS2) can also be used in high temperature and high pressure applications. It offers temperature resistance from -450 deg F (-270º C) to 1200 deg F (650º C) in normal atmosphere and from -305 deg F (-188º C) to 2400º F (1316º C) in Vacuum. Load bearing ability of coated film is extremely high at 300,000 psi.

    Tungsten Disulfide (WS2) can also be used instaed of Molybdenum Disulfide (MoS2). See comparison of WS2 / MoS2

    Since the powder offers one of the lowest Coefficient of Friction (Dynamic @ 0.03 & Static @ 0.07), the applications are unlimited and could be tried with every conceivable idea. .

    Two established ways the WS2 powder can be used are:

    1) Mixing the WS2 powder with wet lubricants (such as oil, grease & other synthetic lubricants): The powder can be mixed 1wt% to 15wt% (as required) with grease or oil. This will enhance lubricity of the mixture and also improves High Temperature and Extreme Pressure properties of mixture. During the use, WS2 in the mixture will get coated on mating/moving parts, which in turn reduces friction and improves lubricity and load bearing ability for much longer cycles.

    2) Coating the WS2 powder on a substrate requiring (dry) lubricity: The powder can be coated by spraying (at 120 psi) the substrate with dry (& cool) pneumatic air. It does not require any binders and spraying can be done at normal room temperature. Coated film will be 0.5 micron thick. In an alternative application method, the powder can also be mixed with Isopropyl alcohol and this paste could be buffed to the substrate. The coating applications are already established in many areas such as Automotive parts, Racing Car Engine and other parts, Aerospace parts, Bearings (Linear, Ball, Roller etc), Shafts, Marine parts, Cutting Tools, Blades, Slitters, Knives, Mold release, Precision Gears, Valve components, Pistons, Chains, Machinery components and many other areas.
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    I'd be careful throwing out stuff like "nano bonding" without evidence.

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    This isn't a new substance! Is been in use since 96. Stanford university developed it for NASA. It does bond on a molecular level,that's the whole purpose of this material. NASA used it in the space program as a lubricant that would work in zero gravity where liquid lubrication would not. So it has been thourghly vetted as far as I'm concerned. Do some research on it.

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