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    Dude, I just want to know if said bonding has been verified after Joe Schmuckatelli whips some up in his garage.

    On another note, I have written about this before....

    http://rationalgun.blogspot.com/2011...ubricants.html

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    I will continue to use all the other stuff that has worked and instead spend some spare time dry firing rather than worrying about lube differences that are unquantifiable. Sure there is better out there but I'll never know the difference. Dry fire produces measurable results.

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    I tried making my own nano-lube, but instead it self-replicated and transmogrified until it made a replica of my own gun, which then held me up at gun point for the money I was saving to buy some more weaponshield. Learn from my mistake, won't you?
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    I get it I'm a skeptical person to. Ive done alot of research on WS2 and it really is a great material with great promise in a firearms application. There have been many studies done on this material and is molecular bonding to a substrate. There is alot of info out there on it. I just thought some people like me would like to play around with it. It has worked exceptionally well in my firearms, just thought I'd share the info. That other article looked like someone mixed moly with a ptfe base. Moly can't take the heat!
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    You do realize that's firearms lubricants are repurposed from other industries mainly industrial, aerospace, etc... with an inflated price tag.
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    Quote Originally Posted by carbinero View Post
    Sounds to me like Frog is like Mad Dog XF-7, posted 4 years up (how many pages ago?) I emailed the creator of Weaponshield who said WS would migrate under the XF-7 and do its job. So I just cut out the middleman and stick with WS.

    He also said Machine Gunners is more for full auto, and for semi WS is the right stuff.
    I'll go along with this. I started using Weaponshield because the guy sent me a free sample in a nifty precision oiler. He came here and discussed his claims calmly and professionally and it does smell like cinnamon...

    I put it on the rails of a new SIG P226 and in a thousand rounds, I did notice much less wear than I have seen on my other SIGs with other lubes in the past. I was sold.

    but I have a small tube of Slip 2000 in the VFG of one of my guns and some Machine gunners lube in the buttstock of another. I wouldn't hesitate to use and rely on any of these which is why I said I feel one oil-based lube is "probably" like another. I'm not sure if using one over another is a good thing but hope as long as I keep it wet, it will do what I'm looking for.

    however, when I run out of the WS, I intend to try the Froglube as I have a friend who switched over to it for his carry gun and he's sold on the nontoxic properties and the idea that it doesn't run...
    never push a wrench...

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    Plain ol' Hoppe's oil and Slide Glide have always worked fine for me.

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    I took my Noveske 14.5" Midlength M4 to Viking Tactics Carbine 1.5 course.

    The course was excellent, instruction world-class, and I highly recommend this to ANYONE who is ready to take their training to the next level. Many people in attendance from local SWAT to Force Recon learned new things, techniques, etc. and everyone had a great time! Huge +1 for Viking Tactics!

    Anyway, back to the M4, since that's what this sub-section is about...

    We fired (well, I fired) just shy of 1700 rounds through my M4 over the 3 day course.

    I began with a clean, properly lubricated weapon. I used MPro-7 LPX.

    That's it.

    There was no wiping, cleaning, spitting into the BCG, nothing. I just "forgot" to do a damn thing for the weapon (except to lube the switchblock and move it around to prevent carbon from freezing it...which turned out to be pointless. The 2nd and 3rd day I just left it alone, and it was just fine when I got home, Noveske is right––-don't lube it, just move it every few hundred rounds and you will be G2G).

    The results?

    2 failures.

    The first happened toward the 500 round mark. The weapon had locked back on an empty chamber (I glanced), and when I slammed a new mag home and pressed the bolt release, I got a double-feed. Was the first round in the mag dis-lodged coming out of my mag-pouch and thrown into the chamber and a second one fed? I don't know. I can't blame this on the rifle, though, as it locked back on empty, and the problem came when a new mag was inserted. Mag failure? User error? I don't know. It never happened again.

    The second failure occurred on the last few hundred rounds of the course. I rode the charging handle after a mag-change during an administrative reload after I had shot a drill. Again, user error.

    Other than that, sewing machine. It always locked back on an empty mag, etc. Flawless.


    Buy a quality AR, and you won't have to be such a prude about keeping it clean. Just lube it every few thousand rounds or so, and it seems G2G. The bolt would fully seat when gently dry-cycling the weapon, after I got home, btw.

    Here is what the weapon looked like when I got home today and broke it down:















    Over-all, the whole course re-affirmed my opinion that the M4 is a helluva weapon, and plenty durable.
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=B_KDvsZcPy4

    Anyway, on to clean-up...



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    I have spoken with George Fennel over the years and he is a true tribologist, not some tinkerer.

    I have some Weapon Shield, and I like MPro7 LPX.

    I am going to lube up two brand new carbines with each and run 'em 500 rounds and break them down and inspect wear.

    I bought the uppers/BCG's for my friends for Christmas, and will buy a case of ammo between them for them to familiarize and learn the weapons with. The Weapon Shield test will be interesting as an addendum.

    Personally, as much as I like Mr. Fennel, I am really liking MPro7-LPX.

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    I look forward to reading your comparison between WS and LPX. My last experience with MPRO was with a cleaner they have that is soapy. I didn't like that much, although I'm sure it has a great use. I like the description of LPX, as it sounds like WS which is what I want: a premium CLP.

    ETA: as we read these posts, just to summarize some of the factors: lubricity, corrosion protection, ease of clean-up, lack of toxicity/bothersome odor. Yet another important factor is price per usage, which is interesting in that some fluid ounces seem to go further than others...
    Last edited by carbinero; 12-11-12 at 15:24.
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