'Less-Than-Lethal' Ammunition...

[Glock17JHP]

The various turkey loads available work rather well on coyotes, with little danger of collateral damage.

Since I keep my shotgun loaded with 'Low Recoil' 00 Buck... I would use that if needed on a coyote... coyotes are bigger than turkeys.

[m24shooter]

I am talking about outside, and at a distance... I am not talking about a situation where deadly force is warranted.

That's just it: if deadly force isn't warranted then it doesn't matter what your shotgun is loaded with because you won't be justified in shooting it even if it is with LL rounds.
Firing a shotgun is deadly force. Deadly force is usually defined as the amount of force that is likely to cause either serious bodily injury or death to another person. LL rounds meet that definition. So even if you feel that deadly force is not warranted, but still use a shotgun firing LL rounds, you are very likely using deadly force in fact.

[Glock17JHP]

OK, m24shooter... you made a very good point!!!

I agree with your reasoning, and do not want to get (or try to employ) LL ammunition.

Thank you all for the replies, they made me think of things that I wasn't thinking about. To me, this is the single most important thing when discussing something with someone else... to get another perspective.

Thanks again... I'm done thinking about getting any LL ammunition.

[Caeser25]

There were a bunch of kids around here that robbed a few convenience stores with a bb gun, they still were charged with armed robbery.

[Ratfink]

http://alamoammo.com/cart/shotgun-am...salt-round-5ct

wonder if it actually works i figure the force or the concusion would dust the salt

[m24shooter]

There were a bunch of kids around here that robbed a few convenience stores with a bb gun, they still were charged with armed robbery.

I've seen cases where someone shooting another person with a BB gun was charged (and the case was proved up) as Assault/DW.

[Glock17JHP]

http://alamoammo.com/cart/shotgun-am...salt-round-5ct

wonder if it actually works i figure the force or the concusion would dust the salt

People here in CA who owned orange groves back on the '60's and '70's sometimes handloaded rock salt to shoot people who tresspassed into their groves to steal fruit. Knew a couple of people who were shot in the butt while running away. Burns like heck for a few days, and usually gets a bit infected. No permanent damage except some scarring, typically.

Could be lethal, though... so not a great idea...

[556A2]

Less Than Lethal shells are a complete waste of your money. As m24shooter said, deadly force is used no matter what you shoot them with. If you need to point a gun at a person, you damn well be ready to kill them because that is the only reason you need to be pointing one at a person.

If you are really worried about coyotes/varmints, buy a .22 rifle & subsonic ammo.

[Glock17JHP]

Less Than Lethal shells are a complete waste of your money. As m24shooter said, deadly force is used no matter what you shoot them with. If you need to point a gun at a person, you damn well be ready to kill them because that is the only reason you need to be pointing one at a person.

If you are really worried about coyotes/varmints, buy a .22 rifle & subsonic ammo.

I already dropped the idea... I agree LL ammo has no place in my ammo supply.

As for the coyotes, etc... they run down the middle of the street just before 'first light'... I see no real danger at this point, they do not seem attack prone or violent at all. I would have a hard time explaining shooting one, since I live within city limits, and this city is fairly 'liberal' in it's firearm views.

I'm done here, you all made me decide to forget it... Thanks!!!

[DocGKR]

Let's get our syntax correct: it is NOT "less than lethal"; it is correctly termed "LESS LETHAL"--big difference in meaning...