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    Fair enough, but rising materials cost increases are always a good excuse to raise prices. Also, its not just 5.56 that has increased in price. There is no doubt that current deployments (and training) are consuming a lot of 5.56 ammo. But prices are also up substantially on nonmillitary rounds like 40 S&W.

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    The dollar is down by over 30% since 2002. Our .gov prints them to pay for stuff and they become worth less.

    China has over 1 trillion of these depreciating dollars in reserves as well. When they enter the market place to buy raw materials, it bids up the price, just as Iraq.gov buying 5.56mm with newly printed dollars bids up the price.

    Anyone get a 30% raise lately? Thought so.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Submariner View Post


    The dollar is down by over 30% since 2002. Our .gov prints them to pay for stuff and they become worth less.

    China has over 1 trillion of these depreciating dollars in reserves as well. When they enter the market place to buy raw materials, it bids up the price, just as Iraq.gov buying 5.56mm with newly printed dollars bids up the price.

    Anyone get a 30% raise lately? Thought so.
    what you just said is so true it made me cringe

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    Unhappy A mess

    Lets face it we are in a mess.

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    I guess I'm lucky. I rarely pay for ammo, but I just stocked up on two 500 round cases of AE .223 55 grain FMJBT from sportsmanguide.com for $160 each to train with off duty. Better buy now before it gets worse folks.
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    Red face euro killing the dollar

    submariner and his graph are correct. the dollar is in the toilet bowl. i feel this is mainly due to the u.s. being a consumer nation and not a producer nation. as such, the trade defecit is overwhelmingly huge and is affecting everything.

    no change in site and i hear the sucking sound of going down the drain. buy gold, not dollars...
    Cold Zero

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    Quote Originally Posted by Cold Zero View Post
    submariner and his graph are correct. the dollar is in the toilet bowl. i feel this is mainly due to the u.s. being a consumer nation and not a producer nation. as such, the trade defecit is overwhelmingly huge and is affecting everything.
    I'm curious ... and I'm no international economics scholar ... but is the EU overall a producer, or haven't they also shifted to consuming and providing services for the most part? If that's the case, they should be in a similar boat to us, and I don't understand why the Euro dollar would be doing well vs the USD for the reason of our trade deficit.

    I wonder how much the currency markets are actually manipulated with malevolent intent (toward America) by the other big players.

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    Kiser Has Red Box Black Hills 55 GR. FMJ

    https://www.kisermunitions.com/?page...product_id=186

    Originally Posted By JKiser:
    Originally Posted By GeorgiaBII:
    I'm confused how is this a group buy? It looks more like a sale to me. Not trying to stir shit I'm honestly confused and interested. Thanks.
    The ammo sells for $439 usually...I price it at $399 to move it...the group buy is $329. There have been "problems" with group buys (involving ammo) in the past. So, they were hesitant to approve the group buy.

    I have done at least 120 hours worth of work to make this project happen. It took Black Hills 13 months to deliver this ammo. I fronted all of the money and received all of the ammo ahead of time...just for this group buy. The result: pay money and get ammo. What could be simpler?

    Or..in other words: This is the best thought-out, properly executed Group Buy to have ever occured on [TOS]! []
    Hope this helps someone with cash.
    Last edited by Submariner; 05-15-07 at 18:12. Reason: Add info
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    FYI he is having a group buy with that ammo on TOS. $329/1000
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    The dollar is falling because we just arbitrarily print more to pay off debts. Money is no longer based with a sound fiscal foundation (ie gold). It's become a promissory note...more of an IOU. That might be fine and dandy in practice until you abuse it severely because now we have WAY MORE paper dollars than we have actual worth to back up that promise. When you arbitrarily print more money without the financial backing, then you devalue the worth of a dollar across the board.

    Ron Paul calls it the sinister "inflation tax" because everything you own is devalued because it's all based on the US dollar. The government printing trillions of dollars to pay for its own bills is much easier than paying it with trillions of dollars of goods.
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