Chicago gun ban works as predicted

[Grayling14]

It makes one wonder what the elected officials are thinking. Empirical evidence, and statistics, have shown that instituting stricter gun laws actually increases violent crime, including gun related crimes; Washington D.C. and the U.K. being two that readily come to mind. My first reaction is to think, “what a bunch of fools”, but the opposite is probably closer to the truth. The politicians may very well know exactly what they are doing; calculating the effect that each piece of legislation will have. So, what is the ulterior motive? What is the end game? Could it be that intentionally creating a crisis through legislation provides opportunity to pass even more restrictive legislation under the pretense of providing safety and protection?

[markdh720]

There goes tourism and property values! I'm typing this while waiting at the doctor's office so forgive me as I am rushing.

What would the Guard be able to do that the police can't besides move around with better equipment? Will they perform traffic and terry stops? it's a band-aid solution which is typical politician reasoning, but they never think deeper. Why not fully staff the PD for the 1st time in years and manage it better. By the time the guard learns the neighborhoods and the intricacies of the gangs and their violence, it will be time for them to move on. What happens when the guard leaves? The savages come back out to tear shit up. In fact, they can brag that they and their boys are so gangsta that they had to call in the army. The guard is making neighborhoods safer in the middle east? Yeah, so why do they and contractors still have to ride heavily armed, in squads and in convoys? This ain't the middle east, folks. This is not a declared disaster or war zone. I'm not knocking the Guard. They do good work. I have friends in it and still consider joing myself, but they are not the right tool for this job.

How about we start by being honest with the citizens and telling them it's their fault, not the police's, that their neighborhoods are shit.

As for cun control, the systems in place do not work and I would support a lift of the ban on guns in the city. Unfortunately, most of you never comment on how hard the transition would be. Realize that for a few years, there will be a rough break in period that will involve violence and breaking of habits by citizens, police, and the courts. For lack of time and a better simile, it would be like giving a small boy an expensive remote control car. At first, he won't know what he's doing with it and shit's going to break. He might even let his similarly inexperienced friends play with it. You will get mad and maybe scold him, ut you gave it to him so you have to bear with him. Eventually, if it hasn't been destroyed completely, he will figure it out and use it the right way.

[Belmont31R]

Well, how about being the next black President, sort of like like the current one?

Of course I completely agree with you overall, but a black President should have some real effect on the societal mindset among blacks today (if there weren't already enough reasons to do so). The days of being able to whine about what a slighted group they are should be gone forever. If they continue to remain, it will be at their future peril because no one except self-loathing liberals will be listening.

At least I sure hope so, anyhow. Not sure anything would surprise me these days, though.

Obama is half white, was raised by rich white people, went to prep school, ivy league colleges, etc.


And he is not the 1st president with black blood. There is considerable evidence several former presidents including Thomas Jefferson had black blood in his family line, and even fathered several kids with the slaves on his estate.


It just sounds better for the left to claim Obama to be the 1st, and completely ignore the fact he is half white, and was raised by his rich white grandparents.

[NinjaMedic]

I cant see this thread lasting long . . .

[Safetyhit]

It just sounds better for the left to claim Obama to be the 1st, and completely ignore the fact he is half white, and was raised by his rich white grandparents.

You are stating that blacks are becoming enslaved by their own demigods, and I largely agree.

However half or full black, he is far more black that any other President in history. Should we resort to basic aesthetics, other than slightly light skin his appearance is also noticeably black. His upbringing was a very substantial benefit no doubt, yet regardless the overall standard has been set.

Sure, the majority of role models out there are negligible and I have likely also bitched about it many times here before. Personally, I think society needs to stop producing gangster rap for it's own benefit. Find a way, get it done.

But we can still find plenty of examples of others who have achieved. How about Richard Steele as another example? Or will we just argue that he was a counter to Obama?

[Caeser25]

This isn't about public relations or politics. This is about reclaiming our communities." News Flash: Your community is already lost. It was lost when the women "learned" it was okay to have mulitple children with different fathers. It was lost when those absent, dead-beat fathers "learned" they didn't have any responsibility for the children they fathered. It was lost when those children didn't work hard in school and instead looked up to gang-bangers and drug dealers because they had gobs of money. It was lost when the precinct workers blew in to tell you how to vote so their cronies could keep their jobs.

This sounds very familiar, but I can't pinpoint where else it has happened, maybe it was Detroit or Cleveland or Youngstown or Philadelphia, or maybe it's Los Angeles....hmm...

[-gary]

Do they really need help to "quell violence"? Maybe it's just my faulty perception but all I see is crime and criminals, not the type of violence that they seem to be portraying. It's not Iraq where there are marauding bands of RPG wielding insurgents and suicide bombers. Not yet anyway. I think the better solution would be to let the no bullshit military court system take over and police the criminals already in the system instead of roaming the streets looking for this so called violence.

Of course I don't really advocate either of those, but desperate times call for desperate politicians or something like that. Maybe the citizens could just throw out the worthless filth that is their aldermen and mayor and take control. Sadly, I fear that will never happen.

[Belmont31R]

You are stating that blacks are becoming enslaved by their own demigods, and I largely agree.

However half or full black, he is far more black that any other President in history. Should we resort to basic aesthetics, other than slightly light skin his appearance is also noticeably black. His upbringing was a very substantial benefit no doubt, yet regardless the overall standard has been set.

Sure, the majority of role models out there are negligible and I have likely also bitched about it many times here before. Personally, I think society needs to stop producing gangster rap for it's own benefit. Find a way, get it done.

But we can still find plenty of examples of others who have achieved. How about Richard Steele as another example? Or will we just argue that he was a counter to Obama?

No I said in my 1st post "other" successful blacks are viewed as uncle toms or race traitors. Rarely are there successful blacks who are not looked at in this manor who are either not sports stars, celebrities, or rappers. Its just what the black community has instilled this in kids, and deemed acceptable. Even black kids with somewhat wealthy parents dress, and act just like the kids in the ghetto. Thats whats looked up to in the vast majority of the black community.


Do you think Steele would be welcomed in a primarily black ghetto? No. He is a race traitor and uncle tom.

[Belmont31R]

Do they really need help to "quell violence"? Maybe it's just my faulty perception but all I see is crime and criminals, not the type of violence that they seem to be portraying. It's not Iraq where there are marauding bands of RPG wielding insurgents and suicide bombers. Not yet anyway. I think the better solution would be to let the no bullshit military court system take over and police the criminals already in the system instead of roaming the streets looking for this so called violence.

Of course I don't really advocate either of those, but desperate times call for desperate politicians or something like that. Maybe the citizens could just throw out the worthless filth that is their aldermen and mayor and take control. Sadly, I fear that will never happen.

If they had belt feds and RPG's they would be using them. No doubt about it.

[bkb0000]

GDs... all the splinter factions are battling it out for turf. trying to subdue it is just gonna make the war last longer. give regular citizens the ability to protect themselves, and stick to reactive policing- cleaning up the bodies of Gangster Disciples.

there is no other solution.