Illegal Castoffs

[downbad]

I think we make the immigration process much harder than it needs to be. Or maybe not harder than it needs to be but not what it should be. We are a country built on immigrants. We should "recruit" good imigrants. By that i mean a people that believe in the real Amercan dream and American soveriegnty. No free loaders and no one here to make money and bring it back to their country of origin. Inforce the laws on the books while not infringing on anyones rights. Thats all.

[glocktogo]

I think we make the immigration process much harder than it needs to be. Or maybe not harder than it needs to be but not what it should be. We are a country built on immigrants. We should "recruit" good imigrants. By that i mean a people that believe in the real Amercan dream and American soveriegnty. No free loaders and no one here to make money and bring it back to their country of origin. Inforce the laws on the books while not infringing on anyones rights. Thats all.

Agreed. The current immigration boondoggle sucks.

[Honu]

Have you ever checked into our immigration system backlogs?
Here is an example of how things go down for someone who wishes to come here legally:
I am a verteran with a well paying job. I have a girlfriend that does not live in the U.S. and is not a citizen. If we want to get married it will take:
- At least one year (likely two) for her to even set foot in the U.S. legally.
-After she is here she would not be able to leave (mother gets sick, funeral, et.) for about the same amount of time, and expect re-entry.
-This doesn't even factor the countless interrogations regarding our personal lifes, lawyer fees, gov fees, and hundreds of hours of paperwork.
All of this for someone that will be fully supported by a U.S. citizen that is also her spouse.
Does that sound like a reasonable way to enter the country? My grandmother signed a log in NY, and went about her business for 70 years.
I don't have an answer, but we need a better system. This system should not involve shooting to kill upon attempted entry.

I guess its clear you are not reading my posts !!!!! I HAVE GONE THROUGH IT !!!!!

have I ever checked into what it takes ??? YES my wife is not a US citizen she is going to go for that once her green card runs out in 3 years though
so I do know what it takes and my friend with his wife from Chile know !!
as many of my other friends !!!

I guess to you cause its tough people should just be able to skip it ?

do I think the system is perfect ? no not even close it sucks and they treat you like criminals ? but we did it my friends do it !!! WHY cause its the correct thing to do !

[Dunderway]

As a LEO, I disagree with this. You're essentially saying that LE has to break the law in order to enforce the law. Keep in mind that a sizable percentage of LEO's in areas with high ethnic populations are ethnic themselves. I'm just not buying it.

I think you're taking my post the wrong way, and I don't think that the LEOs will have racist intentions. I just think that some proposed laws for fighting illegals will entail "racial profiling", whether it is right or wrong.

Example: Your department gets a call from DHS that they suspect a Taliban suicide bomber might attack your station in the next two days but they don't have a suspect. Who would you be watching for? What physical description would you have in your mind? You don't have to answer but be honest with yourself.

Now apply this to a major crackdown on illegal immigrants. I have blonde hair and blue eyes. Would you question me about my citizen status? What type of person might you look at and think, "hey, I wonder if they are here legally."?

I'm not blaming any of this on racism, but just pointing out why some people will obviously be upset about some of these laws.

[Dunderway]

I guess its clear you are not reading my posts !!!!! I HAVE GONE THROUGH IT !!!!!

have I ever checked into what it takes ??? YES my wife is not a US citizen she is going to go for that once her green card runs out in 3 years though
so I do know what it takes and my friend with his wife from Chile know !!
as many of my other friends !!!

I guess to you cause its tough people should just be able to skip it ?

do I think the system is perfect ? no not even close it sucks and they treat you like criminals ? but we did it my friends do it !!! WHY cause its the correct thing to do !

Calm down and stop shouting. Sorry, but I did just notice the end of your one post on page 2. Until I looked back I wrongfully assumed that you were one of the thousands that shout "just come here legally", when they have no clue how ridiculous the process is.

If you don't mind saying, how long ago did your wife immigrate here and how long did the process take? It would be nice to have an idea of how much these thing are perpetuating.

I do not think that people should circumvent the law, but was only mentioning how ridiculous the laws are for people that want to follow them. It's no different than the gun laws in CA: Want a legal handgun now? Fill out all of these pages of forms, pay fees and wait. Want an illegal handgun now? Go to this corner with some cash. I'm not willing to do the latter so I just have to suffer through the former.

Illegal shit only backlogs the entire process more and more for people that want to get here legally. LIke I said, it's broken and needs to be fixed.

[Honu]

I capatlize so you could see it

it was about ten years ago we started
our first thing was to get a lawyer for a few hundred bucks just to make sure we would not miss anything
it took about a month to get a work permit once we filed and about two years to go from legal alien to resident alien

my buddy whos wife is from Chile had to go back for some paperwork that was not proper and theirs got delayed
the reason we were told get a lawyer for a few hundred bucks to double check everything was from many of our friends who had gone through the process
the hiccup he had did not effect the status just the time to get her resident card but the problem can come in if the legal alien runs out before your resident alien status ! its also important to make sure you know when things come up to get to the next step

also to say again you can work during the legal alien part which again took about a month or so ? cant remember exactly


I agree its a stupid setup and it needs fixing but at this point its the law ?
like California ! sorry but I would never live in California due to the laws and other idiocy they seem to do ?? so I have the choice to live somewhere else
Hawaii is really stupid with its gun laws but its home to me and I would trade that with the other things it offered in return and why I would still live their if I could (had to move cause the volcanic air destroyed my lungs which happens to a lot of people their)

while I feel for people wanting a better life
its again a matter of everyone in the world wants a better life
many I knew in Honduras would love to have the lives that many of the Mexican people had ?


but again I just think people in general want it NOW not to wait and they feel entitled to it

the HGTV show house hunters is a prime example couples wanting a first home always bitch
OH it doesnt have granite oh their is no stainless
OH we would have to totally redo this whole place
whine whine whine

and this is or seems to be world wide where everyone wants it now they are entitled and laws dont apply to me

thats my thoughts