NM - New Mexico will no longer recognize Utah CC permits. (Video)

[Irish]

http://www.ksl.com/?nid=148&sid=10533777

SALT LAKE CITY -- New Mexico will no longer accept Utah's gun permits because officials there think Utah's training is inadequate.

State Public Safety Secretary John Denko says Utah licenses require significantly less training than New Mexico's. But Clark Aposhian with the Utah Shooting Sports Council says Utah has the best training in the country.

"I'll put up our training and our stats to show that it is as good if not better than any other state," he says.

Aposhian also says Utah made close to $1 million in gun sales revenue last year. He thinks New Mexico wants to cash in on that.

"It is a component in the balance sheet of a state's budget," he says. "It's all basically an excuse by saying that Utah's training is not as good."

Aposhian notes that Utah gun permits are very popular and are accepted in 35 states as opposed to about 21 for New Mexico gun permits.

He says there were reports that New Mexico gun trainers were urging gun owners to get Utah gun permits because they're cheaper. Utah charges $35 for gun licenses while New Mexico charges $100. Still, none of this justifies banning Utah gun permits, according to Aposhian.

"Utah has the best background checks. We check backgrounds every 24 hours and New Mexico has background checks every four years," he says.

The move to ban Utah gun permits is a bad move, says Aposhian, but he also believes gun owners should support the second amendment by buying gun permits from their own states.

Right now, New Mexico is working with 18 other states to ensure their gun permit requirements meet its strict state guidelines.

I see a trend starting.

[Irish]

Official DPS release: http://www.dps.nm.org/lawEnforcement/ccw/index.php

DPS Press Release
New Mexico No Longer Recognizes Utah Concealed Carry License
April 23, 2010
Contact: Peter Olson
(505) 827-3361

Santa Fe—Effective immediately New Mexico will no longer recognize concealed carry licenses issued by the State of Utah for the purposes of reciprocity in New Mexico, as the requirements for licensure in Utah do not meet the standards required in New Mexico statute. Rules governing the concealed carrying of weapons and issuance of licenses require that training and other provisions be as stringent or substantially similar to New Mexico requirements.

Questions concerning licenses obtained from Utah by New Mexico residents have made it necessary to reevaluate which states will be recognized as valid in New Mexico.

“We’ve had situations where certain concealed carry instructors in New Mexico solicit clients with the promise that if they train here and obtain a Utah license, which entails significantly less training than does a New Mexico license, it will qualify here,” said Department of Public Safety Secretary John Denko. “This is incorrect, and is nothing less than an effort to circumvent New Mexico concealed carry requirements which are designed to protect the public safety while honoring individual rights under the Second Amendment of the constitution.”

The state will also review the status of eighteen other states currently recognized on an informal basis, with the intent of entering into written agreements with these states to ensure compliance with New Mexico law. These states are: Alaska, Arizona, Colorado, Delaware, Florida, Kentucky, Michigan, Minnesota, Missouri, Montana, North Carolina, North Dakota, Ohio, Oklahoma, South Carolina, Tennessee, Virginia, and Wyoming.

New Mexico currently has a written reciprocity agreement in place with Texas; the status of this agreement will remain unchanged.

[User Name]

That sucks. I am scheduled to move to NM next year. I have often questioned NM resolve as far as carry rights.

[xfyrfiter]

I live and work in the state and can tell you that very few of our lib. pols. are 2nd friendly. I took my ccw class in Feb. and it will be longer than 6 mos. before I will receive my permit. And it has not been all that many years ago that you could not carry concealed, but could carry openly almost anywhere. The cc laws have so damn many places that if you get caught carrying you will be going to jail that it's almost not worth the trouble. No carry in liquor est. no carry in state parks, schools, anywhere that owners of property want to ban etc. it's a bit rediculous.

[User Name]

I live and work in the state and can tell you that very few of our lib. pols. are 2nd friendly. I took my ccw class in Feb. and it will be longer than 6 mos. before I will receive my permit. And it has not been all that many years ago that you could not carry concealed, but could carry openly almost anywhere. The cc laws have so damn many places that if you get caught carrying you will be going to jail that it's almost not worth the trouble. No carry in liquor est. no carry in state parks, schools, anywhere that owners of property want to ban etc. it's a bit rediculous.

Hell you've got to wait 6 months for a permit! That is ridiculous. Also you still cannot carry into your local stop and rob due to the fact they sell alcohol. Correct? It took a long time to get carry laws in NM. But it seems there is a long way to go. All that crap really makes me not to want to make the move. Beautiful country though.

[Rated21R]

i see the trend starting too. dang it.

[Zhurdan]

The trend isn't anti-CCW, it's more about getting the dollars for the permit back in state. Utah has made a shit ton of money (taxes and fees) because of their wide reaching CC permits reciprocity. These states just want a piece of the pie, and the only way they can ensure that people get the permit in their home state, and keep the money in state, is to not recognized other states permits. Don't get all "antsy in the pantsy" just yet.

[John_Wayne777]

...yet another reason why I loathe the concept of a training requirement for CCW.

[GermanSynergy]

Can't wait till my out of state Utah CCW permit arrives.

It's the closest any mortal Marylander will get to having a "real" CCW permit......

[99HMC4]

Correct, this is a potential source of income for New Mexico state government (the state's broke -- not California broke, but a half billion in the hole).

The more demanding training requirement? I believe it's 15 rounds at 7 or 10 yards.

Yup, I live here in Albuquerque. Its easy to say the least. I carry no matter where I go, legal or not. And it can take six months but thats not NM deal, its FBI background. Same as getting an NFA weapon....