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Thread: flash hider/brake choice for indoor HD?

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    Quote Originally Posted by ChicagoTex View Post
    It's a good tertiary goal, as auditory exclusion doesn't mitigate actual hearing damage, only the perception of noise.
    Grossman offers evidence to the contrary.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ChicagoTex View Post
    It's a good tertiary goal, as auditory exclusion doesn't mitigate actual hearing damage, only the perception of noise.
    You would be mistaken.

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    Quote Originally Posted by OTO27 View Post
    May I ask why are you worried about flash indoors? Its not like its so bright that it would momentarily blind you, and you are obviously not hiding 100 yards away in a bush hoping the other guy wont see you. May be I missed something in training? I dunno, care to explain to me any advantage to decreasing the flash given by a standard A2 on an HD situation? And like said before, unless you care about waiking up your neighbors, yo dont have to worry about the noise you wont hear a thing, you may actually just hear very low pops.
    You ever fired an AR with no flash hider in low light? Yeah an A2 will work fine in most cases, but you certainly need something that works.
    Last edited by boltcatch; 04-29-10 at 19:25.

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    I'd rather be a little deaf than tempoararily blinded in the situation the op is referring too.
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    Grossman offers evidence to the contrary.
    You would be mistaken.
    Could either of you gentlemen please expound on this for me? I don't understand how adrenaline-based auditory exclusion can make your eardrums stronger.

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    The greater problem I see is that to use a FH, any FH, you will have to have either a registered AW or a bullet button and a 10rnd magazine. With a brake, you can have a featureless build and use detachable magazines and even your pre-ban high capacity mags. This really handicaps you if you are using an AR for HD. Well, unless you have a registered AW.
    Last edited by Jeffy; 04-29-10 at 22:55.

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    I'd use my AAC Brakeout with a AAC M4-2000 mounted on it indoors, call me crazy.....
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    Quote Originally Posted by ChicagoTex View Post
    Could either of you gentlemen please expound on this for me? I don't understand how adrenaline-based auditory exclusion can make your eardrums stronger.
    If you actually read the research, auditory exclusion is a physiological phenomenon.

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    Quote Originally Posted by gotm4 View Post
    I'd use my AAC Brakeout with a AAC M4-2000 mounted on it indoors, call me crazy.....
    Well hell yeah, man, if ya got it! But the OP lives in Cali, so it's a no-go for him. But yeah, after shooting my BCM 11.5" with my new Surefire can mounted, I'd prefer that over anything else while shooting in my house (just because I have it, so why not?).

    But if I didn't have a can, as most don't, I'd just go with a FH and a high quality weapon light and not worry about any loud bangs. JMHO.
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    If you actually read the research, auditory exclusion is a physiological phenomenon.
    I'm more than willing to read "the research" if I can find it, all my google-fu turned up was excerpts and synopses where Grossman acknowledges that auditory exclusion happens. I have been unable to find anything specifically highlighting the physiology OF auditory exclusion.

    Otherwise everything I've found pretty much concurs with my understanding that auditory exclusion is a brain-filtering response. I did encounter one person's writing that claimed that physiological response in a fight-or-flight situation does relax the eardrum muscles some to make it more tolerant of extremely loud noises, but real hearing damage is still very much a possibility.

    Don't get me wrong, I believe firing a few .223s indoors once or twice in your life without ear pro will do little if any noticeable damage, but it is theoretically possible and would therefore be wise to limit report as much as is conveniently doable.
    Last edited by ChicagoTex; 04-29-10 at 23:45.

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