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Thread: Couple Questions to ask about basic AR15

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    i guess i will just leave them on "safe" just like factory setup.

    btw, if i shake it i hear something moves around inside. normal?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Skang View Post
    i guess i will just leave them on "safe" just like factory setup.

    btw, if i shake it i hear something moves around inside. normal?
    firing pin... normal

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    hmm.. i dont think a single weapon in my safe is unloaded.... am i the only one?

    condition 1... mag inserted, chambered, cocked and locked.

    there's absolutely nothing beyond keeping moisture out of the safe than can effect weapons stored in a properly mounted safe.. store them loaded, unloaded, cocked, dropped, doesn't matter.

    for what it's worth, if i do store a gun "unloaded (condition 3 is as "unloaded" as i get, unless the weapon is inoperable)," it's stored hammer dropped, selector on fire. as 5pins indicated, this is the only way to be able to instantly, silently, determine if you need to rack the weapon or not.

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    Quote Originally Posted by opmike View Post
    I store my safety on.
    ...why?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Skintop911 View Post
    Cocked hammers causing hammer spring wear is bunk. As noted by whiterabbit work wears springs, not compression. If you've got a GTG spring, you're fine.

    Storing the gun in the safe position offers benefits:

    1. It eliminates a manipulation of the trigger during the unloading/storage or carry-preparation (cruiser-ready) process. Reducing unnecessary trigger manipulations reduces the potential for NDs.

    2. Storing or racking the rifle with the safety on eliminates the need for an extra control manipulation after the rifle is charged to keep the gun in the safe condition.

    3. Storing or racking the gun with the safety on offers immediate visual recognition that the rifle is in a "safe" condition. Incidental or negligent handling or trigger contact will not discharge the rifle if it is loaded. A rifle stored or racked with the safety off offers no clue as to the loaded condition, and despite dictates to treat all guns as always loaded, compels the handler to exercise even greater deliberation in doing so.

    I'm not aware of any true benefit in leaving the hammer down and the safety in the off position.
    I agree on all counts, especially about needless trigger manipulation, possibly resulting in more NDs. Up until recently, I had no idea that the Army practiced cruiser carry while in the armory. To the best of my recollection of the Marines, that is not how we did it. The armorer, after receiving your over cleaned rifle would hit the bolt release, close ejection port cover, make sure weapon was on safe and store it as such. Maybe it was command discretion?

    My agency also stores them cruiser carry. I have received harsh private messages on other forums after voicing my negative opinion of said practice, on the internet.

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    Cocked hammers causing hammer spring wear is bunk. As noted by whiterabbit work wears springs, not compression. If you've got a GTG spring, you're fine.

    Storing the gun in the safe position offers benefits:

    1. It eliminates a manipulation of the trigger during the unloading/storage or carry-preparation (cruiser-ready) process. Reducing unnecessary trigger manipulations reduces the potential for NDs.

    2. Storing or racking the rifle with the safety on eliminates the need for an extra control manipulation after the rifle is charged to keep the gun in the safe condition.

    3. Storing or racking the gun with the safety on offers immediate visual recognition that the rifle is in a "safe" condition. Incidental or negligent handling or trigger contact will not discharge the rifle if it is loaded. A rifle stored or racked with the safety off offers no clue as to the loaded condition, and despite dictates to treat all guns as always loaded, compels the handler to exercise even greater deliberation in doing so.

    I'm not aware of any true benefit in leaving the hammer down and the safety in the off position.
    Absolutely 1000% agree!

    If you have "hammer-down" storage ingrained as a habit; learn a new habit.
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