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    Hate to be the one to break it to you but .45/.308 isn't going to do anything magical that a .9mm/5.56mm won't do. The .45/.308 isn't guaranteed to drop anyone, any differently either

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    Quote Originally Posted by graffex View Post
    Hate to be the one to break it to you but .45/.308 isn't going to do anything magical that a .9mm/5.56mm won't do. The .45/.308 isn't guaranteed to drop anyone, any differently either
    Every time I hear or read that, I think about 1908. But whatever. History could be wrong.
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    To quote another user.

    ''I've never seen somebody survive a shot from a 9mm that a .45, or .40 would have killed them. On the other hand, I've also never seen somebody die from a .45 or .40 where a 9mm wouldn't have gotten the job done either.''
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    Quote Originally Posted by BVickery View Post
    Also, since you say that neither of you are great shots, hit the range and do both of you a favor and take some classes.
    Yeah, I've been working on that. After 20 years of shooting, I can Finally, officially, hit the broad side of a barn at 100 yards.
    She's already at that point after 4 years. It's a little annoying.
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    This thread makes my head hurt.

    Daniel Defense, Bravo Company, Noveske, Colt LE6920. Pick one. Aimpoint, light, PMAGs. Training, training, training. Then more training.

    Every time I hear or read that, I think about 1908. But whatever. History could be wrong.
    You're referring to the one thing armchair commandos always point to "The US adopted the .45 to replace weak .38 revolvers after experience in the Philippines yada yada yada"

    1) The .38 cartridges used back then were rather anemic. 9mm ammunition today is quite a bit different.
    2) That was over a hundred years ago. Much has changed since.
    3) We have hollowpoints. And good ones at that.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Taran View Post
    Well, that and neither of us is a real good shot, anyway. We need a forgiving round even before the other considerations kick in.
    This is the problem. If you can't hit them with a 9mm a .45 isn't going to save you. In fact carrying less ammunition in the .45, typically, would be a problem due to not having the additional rounds to attempt to put into the bad guy. Just some food for thought.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Avenger29 View Post
    This thread makes my head hurt.
    I could mail you some aspirin...

    Daniel Defense, Bravo Company, Noveske, Colt LE6920. Pick one. Aimpoint, light, PMAGs.
    Much thanks.

    Training, training, training. Then more training.
    Yes. I know. God, I know. One benefit of having our own weapons is being Able to train. I already shoot my .45 better than my M16. In another few months, I'll have put more shots through my .45 than through every M16 I've ever held combined. I expect that to hold true when I get my own rifle, too.



    You're referring to the one thing armchair commandos always point to "The US adopted the .45 to replace weak .38 revolvers after experience in the Philippines yada yada yada"

    1) The .38 cartridges used back then were rather anemic. 9mm ammunition today is quite a bit different.
    2) That was over a hundred years ago. Much has changed since.
    3) We have hollowpoints. And good ones at that.
    1) and 2) send me back to the links provided above for DocGKRs posts where he seems to disagree with you. .45, especially in a 1911 is what he considers ideal; and 5.56 is far from ideal in his opinion, but I haven't figured out what he likes best in a rifle.
    Of course, that could just be how I'm reading it...

    3) Hollow points, ftw. When you absolutely, positively have to make the kill ASAP. Right now I'm trying to figure out my duty ammo and like Remington Gold Sabres best. So far. But I haven't even seen the ones DocGKR recommends, let alone fired them. Not sure I could afford them.

    Anyway, thank you again for the info up top. Now I need to look at them specifically.
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    The only reason I even own a 6.8 rifle, is because while I like the bonus of being more effective out of an SBR (which all my rifles are) it has the option for subsonic loads.

    If I was going non SBR it would be all 5.56.
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    Sorry? "SBR?"
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    Quote Originally Posted by Taran View Post
    Sorry? "SBR?"
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