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Thread: So My Wife Wants an M4

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    Quote Originally Posted by Taran View Post
    She and I are both members of said forces. It's why we don't like the 5.56 or the 9mm
    5.56 is more than enough round for close combat. It sounds like you will be using this gun for home defense. A .30 cal or larger round may over penetrate and put others in danger. 6.8 mm has proven to be a good compromise for the 5.56 vs. .30 cal debate.

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    I can't believe this thread is still rolling...

    Any luck deciding on a weapon? I think several choices out there will serve your family well. I'm sure I don't have to say it, but remember that there is no "end all be all" weapon. I own multiple weapons and they all do different things. Some perform better than others. Some have special purposes. Some are just for fun.

    Good luck.

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    For my .02, I would stick with a 5.56 and use some 75 gr ammo in it. But if you insist on something with more punch, Alexander Arms makes complete uppers that fire a .50 cal Beowulf round. Basically, it's similar to a .500 S&W but with a rimless case. You really sacrifice magazine capacity with that thing, but it is a devastating round under 200 yards. The drawbacks are increased recoil, very expensive ammo, and 10 rounds as opposed to 30 in the mag.

    But to add weight to what has been said before, a big caliber doesn't make up for poor marksmanship. 1,000:1 I would rather have a well-trained man with a 5.56 using M-193 covering my back than a poorly trained man with the .50 cal Beowulf.

    I certainly mean no disrespect when I say any of the above statements. I honor your desire to have the most effective weapon to defend your home, but a reliable 5.56 in the hands of a well-trained person is a devastatingly leathal combination.
    Ted Kennedy's car has killed more people than my AR.

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    I'm not a ballistics expert, but the 5.56 wounds that I've seen that were inflicted at close ranges have been beyond horrific, and that is with the regular issued M855 ammo. And I'm assuming if you are looking at the AR platform, you're talking about home defense, which should mean close range shots.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Fyrhazzrd View Post
    You must have been in the Marines. Yes the Army tries to teach that, but once out of Basic Training (Or at least in my experience) All we trained on were pop up targets. Hard to tell where your shots are actually landing on a pop up target. Granted I was not in a combat MOS (aviation if that matters), so that may have something to do with it.

    Edit: BTW the marine comment I made. That was not meant in a bad way. I know it can be hard to decipher intent in a message board.
    My point was there is nothing wrong with 5.56 when you do your part. If your training was not up to part there are some fine schools out there to attend.

    And yes, the Army's qual course is a joke.

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