CCW and Census Workers

[Heavy Metal]

I found out something today that blew my mind. A phase of the census that took place before I got hired on (thank God) was to GO INTO abandoned houses, under bridges, overpasses, parks, etc AT NIGHT with flashlights wearing hi-vis vests that said US GOVT on the back. No Police escorts or any type of weapons were permitted. The purpose was to find and count the homeless in the area.

**** that shit!

[mtneer13]

Bullshit. Most of the people "crackin' on gubment jobs" are right. If you are good/competent and hardworking, you will probably be thrown under the bus constantly by your superiors. Incompetent and a waste of oxygen, but drink the koolaid? You're management potential, baby![/QUOTE]




no, i am one of the good/competent and hardworking that is thrown under the bus...i just fight management through the proper channels that we have in place and have enjoyed a 14 yr career with my agency...the military was full of more incompetent wastes of oxygen that were untouchable as upper level NCOs than could ever be witnessed in my agency...we have all the 20 yr "new old guys" that we have to give jobs to and these retired E-8s can't do the physical labor required to do my job, want to sit around smoking and drinking coffee with management and throw the guys out doing our work under the bus...

unfortunately, with today's laws on age base hiring, we can't get around the coffee cup toting losers we have to hire today...those that were too afraid to get out of the service's warm cuddly nest of incompetence to get a real job...now, we can't bring in the 25-30 yr olds that were hired when i came in that were the "go-getters" and still overperform despite the ****ed up ex-AF guys managing/wanna-be-managers that we have promoted through years of "Peter-principle" advancements...

[Spiffums]

its your right to carry and defend yourself,

worst case is you have to use your weapon and they find out, as long as it was provoked by the other person there is nothing they can do, thats clear-cut self defense, government employee or not. Most likely you wont need it and will be fine, and you will continue to go on without your boss knowing you carry.

besides, if its not written, its not a rule.

You will have a hell of a problem justifying self defense. You will be on other people property and there fore the best defense for you would be to retreat. It is highly unlikely that you will come under fire from a house as you pull in the drive.

[bubabootie]

I would say that you have the right to defend yourself. Just don't go in the home. I'd recommend staying on the door and asking your questions. If they escalate, just remember to escalate your force in kind, trying to avoid a confrontation. I'd say if they appear that hostile, you need to just drop everything and GTFO!

[DasBulk]

Let me see if I got it right.

Yes, Im going to carry when the Census worker knocks on my door.

Right?

[Spiffums]

I would say that you have the right to defend yourself. Just don't go in the home. I'd recommend staying on the door and asking your questions. If they escalate, just remember to escalate your force in kind, trying to avoid a confrontation. I'd say if they appear that hostile, you need to just drop everything and GTFO!

I can see someone opening fire after they get a door slammed in their face and asked to leave.

[Avenger29]

I can see someone opening fire after they get a door slammed in their face and asked to leave.

We don't ask them to leave around here, we tell them to GTFO immediately.

Although I'm sure the OP wouldn't do something stupid like your scenario, Spiffums...

[dcollect]

Hahaha. College student looking for some part time work. They pay 12/hr, .50 a mile, and up to $240 a month for phone (which is RIDICULOUS). The Census is a mind blowing waste of tax payer money yall.

That is MY money, DUDE. Your post irks me beyond belief. Ugh. I'm probably paying for your schooling, too. That about sum it up? If that '82 in your screen name is your dob, you need to exit fantasy land immediately and get a real job.