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    Quote Originally Posted by LMT42 View Post
    I stand corrected, but my math is also incorrect. 200K gallons a day, over 90 days, would be about 18 million gallons. Still much smaller than some in the thread you posted. Still large enough to do enormous economic and environmental damage.


    I think location has more to do with it than the exactl amount of gallons spilled.


    The shores next to this well are hugely important to the coastal economy, and our seafood supply. If you spill oil in the sticks even if its 5x as much who cares?

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    Quote Originally Posted by spookydurant View Post
    It pisses me off how Obama prioritizes his plans. Doing a speech at a university in Michigan today...........I think he should have dropped what he was doing and got on this disaster first. I realize there isnt much that can be done at this point, but its just the point of him not giving a shit! Does anyone else feel this frustration? Oh and by the way....wheres Bono and Oprah?
    I'm not a fan of any of these people that you mentioned, but what exactly is it that you want them to accomplish? We're going to need a ton of money to clean up the coast, and I'm sure that Bono, Oprah and Obama will help with that. In the mean time, all we can do is wait and try to contain as much as the oil as possible, then start the cleanup as soon as we have a good idea as to the scale of the tragedy. This is an entirely different beast from Katrina.

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    Quote Originally Posted by LMT42 View Post
    I'm sorry as I know those eleven men meant the world to their families, but eleven human beings is a pretty small deal compared to the damage this leak is going to do to the ecosystem. We're talking tens, maybe hundreds, of thousands of fish, birds, turtles, shrimp, oysters, organisms, etc., being wiped out. Those wetlands and marshes will take decades, possible centuries, to recover. We haven't even touched on had badly this will affect the economy. From tourism to fishermen, this is going to affect a lot more than eleven families.

    What if it takes three months to cap this well? This leak, as it's not really a spill, could dump up to two million gallons of oil. This is an environmental disaster of epic proportions.
    Are you really placing economic value on a human life, much less eleven human lives? Really?
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    Quote Originally Posted by kry226 View Post
    Are you really placing economic value on a human life, much less eleven human lives? Really?
    Yea I can tell you that his response could get him strung out to dry if he said that in the wrong part of the country. Like a few other people in this thread I have lived with the looming possibility that my father, some of my friends, and countless other people I know could not come home from work because of an oil and gas accident. It is something I have lived with my entire life, and I have seen first hand the damage, and pain it causes not only a family but also a community. I don't think the person you quoted realizes that these deaths have resulted in pain (to some degree) for every family of every oil field worker in the nation.

    But to be honest I have come to terms with the reality that my father does the job he does, and LOVES the job he does, and did the job he did so well as to provide me with the choice to not do the job he does if I so desire. Also that he does this at great risk to his life, and to the mental well being of his family. I've experienced work place deaths at his sites, and the stress of a mechanical failure. The realities of not knowing if he was there, of finding out later, of not knowing where exactly he is, or if he's alive until he calls, and I'm finally at peace with it.

    While I love him more then the world, the reality is that his life does have a monetary value, and the loss of his life has a negative monetary value in regards to the company and industry. So while I loathe what the guy your quoting is saying, and at a younger age would have punched him in the face if he said it within ear shot, I do understand what he is trying to say. I don't agree with it, but I understand it.

    He does need to scale it back a bit though and realize that this horrible disaster he is freaking out about may not be as catastrophic as he is predicting.
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    It's about the mentality

    Quote Originally Posted by metallic View Post
    I'm not a fan of any of these people that you mentioned, but what exactly is it that you want them to accomplish? We're going to need a ton of money to clean up the coast, and I'm sure that Bono, Oprah and Obama will help with that. In the mean time, all we can do is wait and try to contain as much as the oil as possible, then start the cleanup as soon as we have a good idea as to the scale of the tragedy. This is an entirely different beast from Katrina.
    I really dont expect these people to accomplish much, I know they are people just like me and you, my intended gripe is......the attitude of the media and celebs. It seems hip to help 3rd world nations these days and the celebs work everybody up like strippers to give their hard earned cash, BUT when a disaster happens in CONUS, you hear nothing from these people. They carry on with their shallow lives until their PR people tell them that they might get a few more ratings by showing up and interviewing some helpless soul on tv, all the while theyre designer trailers and custom cuisines are waiting for them close by. It happened during Katrina and it will happen again, it just sucks that most of the mainstream population fall for it everytime and glamourize these retards even more!

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    Quote Originally Posted by jman4427 View Post
    I'm not saying it was done purposefully but in regard to costing 1 billion to replace, I'm not sure how that is relevant. It's not like taxpayers will be footing the bill for a replacement rig.
    Yeah they will. At the gas pump. If you buy BP that is. The price of BP gas has been going up in my area a few cents a day since this happened, while every other brand has been steady.
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    Quote Originally Posted by R/Tdrvr View Post
    Yeah they will. At the gas pump. If you buy BP that is. The price of BP gas has been going up in my area a few cents a day since this happened, while every other brand has been steady.
    Correct. Taxpayers won't be footing the bill involuntarily.

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    Quote Originally Posted by spookydurant View Post
    I really dont expect these people to accomplish much, I know they are people just like me and you, my intended gripe is......the attitude of the media and celebs. It seems hip to help 3rd world nations these days and the celebs work everybody up like strippers to give their hard earned cash, BUT when a disaster happens in CONUS, you hear nothing from these people. They carry on with their shallow lives until their PR people tell them that they might get a few more ratings by showing up and interviewing some helpless soul on tv, all the while theyre designer trailers and custom cuisines are waiting for them close by. It happened during Katrina and it will happen again, it just sucks that most of the mainstream population fall for it everytime and glamourize these retards even more!
    I think I can agree with that.

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    Quote Originally Posted by R/Tdrvr View Post
    Yeah they will. At the gas pump. If you buy BP that is. The price of BP gas has been going up in my area a few cents a day since this happened, while every other brand has been steady.
    I'm guessing all the suppliers will increase soon enough.

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