Arizona Law against illegals are you for or against it?

[Dragon Slayer]

Please give us your opinion for the new law passed in Arizona are you for it or against it or maybe you don't care either way.

I am strongly for it.

[BaldEagle323]

I am for it. While it's a shame that AZ has had to do this as the Federal government should have done something a long time ago. It's a NATIONAL border, making it more than just AZ's problem

[230therapy]

It's just another tool. The police aren't going to run around asking for papers. It's based upon reasonable suspicion. So, if the person gets stopped for speeding and the person does not present ID, then they're going to get hauled in anyway. They're now allowed to check for immigration status. That's it.

I have seen statements in the news to the effect that illegals are getting ready to move out. Excellent! They should go to California.

What's just plain stupid is that NO Arizona governor has deployed the local National Guard to the border. There's no excuse for this; they could stop 99% of the cross-border traffic in a week. The Minute Men did so; why can't the Arizona National Guard?

[SpookyPistolero]

I find myself torn on the issue. On the one hand, there is a real and present danger from thousands of illegal immigrants entering our country. They eating our resources and overburdening our systems, and swaying our weak two-party system. They also often end up working harder than many of their American-born counterparts. On the other hand, the AZ law is unconstitutional in its empowerment of police to search and seize at will, based on arbitrary rules.

All I do know is that if the federal government got off their ass and took steps to solve the problem, AZ wouldn't have to be a scapegoat and wouldn't be left to their own devices.

[CAVDOC]

I do not think the AZ law is asking police officers to do anything they would not already do- if they have a reasonable suspicion to act on their suspicion- pretty mcuh the basis of old fashioned police work

[carolvs]

It's just another tool. The police aren't going to run around asking for papers. It's based upon reasonable suspicion. So, if the person gets stopped for speeding and the person does not present ID, then they're going to get hauled in anyway. They're now allowed to check for immigration status. That's it.

Unfortunately up until now, many police in AZ have tended to just let illegals go (for issues like speeding) rather than haul them in, since they didn't consider illegals to be their problem. Now they finally have to.

What's just plain stupid is that NO Arizona governor has deployed the local National Guard to the border. There's no excuse for this; they could stop 99% of the cross-border traffic in a week. The Minute Men did so; why can't the Arizona National Guard?

I agree, the AZ Governor should mobilize the NG to deal with our Federally-undefended border. That should be the next step. Our national border being violated by foreign nationals isn't a police problem, it is a military one.

[Stickman]

Its already illegal to be an illegal alien, and to tell LEO that they can't ask or verify the status of someone under investigation for an additional crime is a travesty.

I don't support stopping people on the street and asking for their papers. However,I see this as no different than checking someone for warrants, drivers status or their criminal background which is something I do every day while investigating crimes.

[Cascades236]

Its already illegal to be an illegal alien, and to tell LEO that they can't ask or verify the status of someone under investigation for an additional crime is a travesty.

I don't support stopping people on the street and asking for their papers. However,I see this as no different than checking someone for warrants, drivers status or their criminal background which is something I do every day while investigating crimes.

+1

I mentioned it in another thread but it's worth repeating. I arrested a DUI one night who provided a bogus social security card, but the department I work for doesn't allow for me to check his "status" or call for someone else to do so. In my opinion, that's the perfect example of where this Arizona law would be used.

[austinN4]

On the other hand, the AZ law is unconstitutional in its empowerment of police to search and seize at will, based on arbitrary rules.

Your statement that police will be empowered "to search and seize at will" is just flat wrong.

Edited to add: I am for legal immigration and a highly controlled guest worker program, but I am totally against illegal immigration and would like to see all (no race specified) illegals out of our country.

[scanda]

I went through the "process" of having my wife(German) legally get a green card and later on citizenship...illegal's are breaking the law, I don't get all the arguments on their behalf???