View Poll Results: Are you for, against or don't care about Arizona's anti illegal emigration law

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  • I support strongly the new law

    235 94.00%
  • I oppose strongly the new law

    11 4.40%
  • I don't care either way.

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Thread: Arizona Law against illegals are you for or against it?

  1. #11
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    Treason is only a federal crime correct? Should a beat cop turn a blind eye to someone with plans to overthrow the national government?

    I do think it is a horrible idea in that a lot of the illegals are said to be heading to Colorado. Thanks for that.
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    I can't stand illegal immigrants. I have meet many USAF members that did the right thing and enlisted or became an officer and got their citizenship legally. They are becoming a productive American citizen.

    In my squadron we are joking about the next big mission. The Border Wars.

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    I'm sorta for it, certianly not against it, but to me it really just another lame act...

    ""We're going to make it Illegal to be Illegal"""...


    STOP I say, Stop.... Or Or Or, I'll Say STOP Again...

    Its not going to make a difference... So you catch one and throw'em over the fence, 6 more Climb right back over and under about a half hour later...

    Want to make a differnce stop what they come over for...

    Stop the Hand outs (No School, No Welfare, No Medicare, no nothing)
    Stop Business from Hiring Illegals

    Start with those, then I can give a few more...

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    I opposed the first draft but support strongly the final document.
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    Quote Originally Posted by austin12gauge View Post
    Your statement that police will be empowered "to search and seize at will" is just flat wrong.

    Edited to add: I am for legal immigration and a highly controlled guest worker program, but I am totally against illegal immigration and would like to see all (no race specified) illegals out of our country.
    Exactly. This is not the Doomsday Device the hysterical pro-illegal immigration side proclaims it to be.

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    for.

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    I support this law but it really wasn't necessary to pass another law because we already have a federal law that covers this. They just need to enforce it.

    It drives me nuts hearing ignorant people, on the TV or radio, talk about immigration reform. It's like they don't know the difference between Illegal Immigrant and Immigrant. The key word in Illegal Immigrant is "Illegal." One of the conservative pundits usually points this fact out and then the liberal talking heads act like a set of devil horns just popped out of his/her head.
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    The Feds were not enforcing the law. If Arizona does go to Federal court, they need to make the correct arguments. If they argue "Feds were not doing their job", then Arizona will lose. This is not how the delegation of powers to the Federal government from the states operates.

    The states have just as much authority to enforce their borders as the Federal government.

    This law just gives Arizona law enforcement the ability to look into the backgrounds of people they detain. There is nothing that I can see that is a violation of the Constitution. LE still has to demonstrate the reasons for searches and detainment.

    They cannot just walk around grabbing people...that would last about 10 seconds in court. The law would then be useless.

    I think the effect of this bill will be to motivate illegals in Arizona to seek greener pastures...like California.
    Last edited by 230therapy; 05-01-10 at 22:55.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Stickman View Post
    Its already illegal to be an illegal alien, and to tell LEO that they can't ask or verify the status of someone under investigation for an additional crime is a travesty.

    I don't support stopping people on the street and asking for their papers. However,I see this as no different than checking someone for warrants, drivers status or their criminal background which is something I do every day while investigating crimes.
    Question for the LEO's: I was told only ICE can detain and deport illegals. A regular street cop can not. If this is true it really ties the hands of law enforcement. Select agencies (like State Police etc.)have acquired the capability by taking a class to obtain whatever certification is needed to be able to do this. Is this true?

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    I am for the law. Those that are against the law are the same people that when someone is arrested for a crime. They think that it is inhuman to put the person in jail, but rather give that person home confinement or classes for their problems.

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