Arizona Law against illegals are you for or against it?

[Eddiesketti]

People here illegally have no rights given to legal citizens. The next thing to do is take away incentives to come here illegally. No plopping out kids on the border to make them anchors. No aid for people who broke the law. Places like Arizona stopping the flow of illegals is a great thing. All the border states should follow suit. The other states will not have such an influx once the head of the snake is cut off.

[CarlosDJackal]

I'm an immigrant and I support the law. I had to follow the established process in order to become a "Green Card Holder". Why some of these people think that they are entitled to be given the same credentials without taking the same steps as I did, is beyond me.

[CarlosDJackal]

...What's just plain stupid is that NO Arizona governor has deployed the local National Guard to the border. There's no excuse for this; they could stop 99% of the cross-border traffic in a week. The Minute Men did so; why can't the Arizona National Guard?

Simple: cost. Do you have any idea what the cost would be to activate and maintain such a force indefinitely? Also, given the GWOT OPTEMPO, you would put such a pressure on the AZ-NG that it would probably make it very hard for them to respond to Natural Disasters.

IMHO, they need to activate the unorganized militia and put them at the border in 1-week shifts. This would basically be any able-bodied male who are not serving in any military organizzation. Use them as teh eyes and ears and have specialized units of the AZ-ARNG and/or State Police respond to their reports. JM2CW.

[HES]

I am of two minds about the law. The reasons behind it are understandable. The federal government is shirking their duty and the people of AZ are tired of having to bear the burden. So to their line of thinking if they are being abandoned by the federal government then they have to fend for themselves.

Is the law constitutional? I don't think so since immigration and border security is reserved for the federal government. So the people of AZ have been backed into a corner, they had to take some sort of action. I can't blame them for that. I also thinks its BS that some agencies wont allow their officers / deputies to do a immigration check with probable cause.

If the federal government feels that they have egg on their face or their panties are in a twist over this then good. Instead of trotting out hyperbolic claims of racism or trotting out false lines about how this will interfere with Federal anti drug law enforcement operations, maybe they should do their job for once (I.e. stopping or chasing down illegal aliens). It's a rather simple solution. Will they do it? No. So now this can go to the SCOTUS.

[carolvs]

I support this law but it really wasn't necessary to pass another law because we already have a federal law that covers this. They just need to enforce it.

The way the Bill is written is that it requires local LE to enforce the existing US Code. Which makes most of the national-level hair pulling that much more amusing.

It drives me nuts hearing ignorant people, on the TV or radio, talk about immigration reform. It's like they don't know the difference between Illegal Immigrant and Immigrant. The key word in Illegal Immigrant is "Illegal."

Indeed, like there is a difference between sex and rape.

[Bubba FAL]

Strongly pro - about time the States started exercising their authority. Fed.gov has been asleep at the wheel for a long time when it comes to protecting our borders.

Let us not forget that, per our Constitution, any powers of the Federal government are granted by the States. As such, the States have the right to act in their own defense when the Federal government fails.

For those against enforcement of our immigration laws, try entering Mexico illegally and see what happens to you when you're discovered without proper documentation. You sure as hell won't be getting a free education, health care, etc.

[BrianS]

For those against enforcement of our immigration laws, try entering Mexico illegally and see what happens to you when you're discovered without proper documentation. You sure as hell won't be getting a free education, health care, etc.

I would be willing to try it if Shakira will come visit me in prison.

[PPKS]

I strongly support Arizona's new law.
Something I'v not heard anyong mention, is the gang, M13, who sent hundreds of their members across the border. Also, it's the preferred infiltration route for Al Quida to enter the US.
IMO this is a National Security issue and it's apparent that the current administration has no interest in National Security.

[RogerinTPA]

I support the new AZ Law, however, they didn't go far enough. They should have made the "Hiring" of Illegals, a $20K fine per head, plus jail time, for business owners, if they are found on the premises. That, in and of it self, would have reversed the flow.

[CarlosDJackal]

...Is the law constitutional? I don't think so since immigration and border security is reserved for the federal government. So the people of AZ have been backed into a corner, they had to take some sort of action. I can't blame them for that. I also thinks its BS that some agencies wont allow their officers / deputies to do a immigration check with probable cause...

I disagree. Illegal Immigration is not just a Federal problem. Besides, this is not the first time a State enacted a statute that is a direct copy of Federal Law.

This is the same misinformation I hear from my left-leaning co-workers who would have supported this law whole-heartedly if their mis-sihah had publicly endorsed it (NOTE: I'm not implying that you're one of them).

If AZ was defining what constitutes "illegal immigration" outside of Federal Law I would agree. But what this law is doing is stating that they (AZ) is complimenting the Federal Law with a statute of their own by stating that it is now against AZ State Law for an illegal alien to be in AZ.

This is no different for them passing a similar law against illegal drugs or against a crime that was committed outside of their borders. Can you imagine how things would be if one State never passed a law against acts of kidnapping or murder that happend in another State or on Federal land?

Not only that, the bill clearly states that the standard that must be used to identify if someone is an illegal alien is based entirely on the current Federal Law. It clearly states that LEOs can only apply this law in the course of making contact for another violation or incident. Much like seatbelt laws that are in place in a lot of States. In these cases you cannot be cited for not wearing your seatbelt. You can only be cited if you get pulled over for another violation (IE: speeding, etc.) and you are caught not wearing the seatbelt after the fact.

I think it's a good law that seems to be well written. But as with any laws, it still has to ratified by Case Law. JM2CW.