Arizona Law against illegals are you for or against it?

[Norinco]

You would think the issue of illegal immigration would be clear-cut...
Being a citizen of a foreign country who came here through illegal means you have no constitutional rights in this country and should be dealt with as a criminal.

[Irish]

http://www.foxnews.com/us/2010/05/01...tys-attackers/

PHOENIX -- Authorities have captured 17 suspected illegal immigrants in southern Arizona as they continued their manhunt Saturday for smugglers who they say shot and wounded a sheriff's deputy in a remote desert area 50 miles south of Phoenix.

Three of those captured overnight Friday matched descriptions from the wounded Pinal County deputy and were being questioned Saturday, sheriff's Lt. Tamatha Villar said. The deputy was released from the hospital, and was recovering at home.

The shooting came amid a growing national debate over the state's new law cracking down on illegal immigration. A backlash over the law has erupted, with civil rights activists, concerned it will lead to racial profiling, calling for protests and boycotts.

Criticism of the law was sure to figure prominently at dozens of immigrants rights marches and rallies planned for Saturday across the nation, including one set for the grounds of the Arizona state Capitol.

The new law's passage came amid increasing anger in Arizona about violence, drug smugglers and illegal immigration drop houses. The issue gained renewed attention a month ago when a southern Arizona rancher was shot and killed by a suspected illegal border crosser.

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Arizona politicians called Friday's shooting an outrage and urged the federal government to do more to secure the U.S.-Mexico border.

The violence "should show the rest of the country what we Arizonans have known for too long -- the unsecured border poses a very real and very immediate danger," said U.S. Rep. Ann Kirkpatrick, a Democrat whose district includes part of Pinal County.

On Friday afternoon, Deputy Louie Puroll, 53, was patrolling near Interstate 8 when he came upon a stash of marijuana bales and five suspected smugglers. At least one of the suspects opened fire on him, tearing a chunk of skin from his back.

Puroll radioed in that he was shot, setting off a frantic hourlong search for the deputy in the remote desert, Villar said.

The area is a well-known smuggling corridor for drugs and illegal immigrants headed from Mexico to Phoenix and the U.S. interior.

State and federal law enforcement agencies deployed helicopters and scores of officers to search a 100-square-mile zone for the suspects. The Arizona Republic reported that officials said more than one of the choppers came under fire during the manhunt on Friday.

Puroll, a 15-year department veteran, had been on the lookout for smugglers when he discovered the suspected smugglers, two armed with rifles, authorities said.

[Belmont31R]

abolish the minimum wage, I guarantee you employers will hire legal citizens again and there will be more jobs overall. One of the main reasons they hire illegals is because its too damn expensive to pay a legal citizen because of BS min wage laws because most of those jobs arent worth $7.25/hour. Min wage laws give incentive to hire illegals over legals. I'm starting to think legal citizens on welfare created another unintended consequence also. There's no way in hell some people will take these low skilled manual labor jobs when you can mooch on welfare instead. To me that basically creates a giant void in low skilled low education jobs, which the illegals swooped in to fill.

Lowering the tax burden on businesses would do a lot more for a business wanting to hire a citizen at minimum wage than doing away with the minimum wage while keeping the tax burden high.

[ForTehNguyen]

Lowering the tax burden on businesses would do a lot more for a business wanting to hire a citizen at minimum wage than doing away with the minimum wage while keeping the tax burden high.

I dont see how their corporate taxes are any different when hiring illegals vs legals. I still agree that lowering taxes overall will increase employment. I still think min wage is a greater driving factor for hiring illegals. Higher taxes just chase the jobs out of the country completely.

[Oscar 319]

Cafferty laying down the law, surprising to see this on CNN:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aBBoiupXjzc

This is awesome, especially coming from CNN.

[bubabootie]

i'm all for states rights. If it isnt blatantly unconstitutional i'm all for it. And hey, if the federal government wants to sit on their hands for dozens of years then i'm all for states seizing the initiative.

[Safetyhit]

Cafferty laying down the law, surprising to see this on CNN:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aBBoiupXjzc

That was uplifting coming from someone respectable on CNN, thanks for posting. Hope they don't fire Jack now for such blasphemy.

[C4IGrant]

Its already illegal to be an illegal alien, and to tell LEO that they can't ask or verify the status of someone under investigation for an additional crime is a travesty.

I don't support stopping people on the street and asking for their papers. However,I see this as no different than checking someone for warrants, drivers status or their criminal background which is something I do every day while investigating crimes.

Right. Police come into people on a daily basis and ask to see their drivers license and ask them questions (in all the States).

The AZ law is no different.



C4

[Belmont31R]

I dont see how their corporate taxes are any different when hiring illegals vs legals. I still agree that lowering taxes overall will increase employment. I still think min wage is a greater driving factor for hiring illegals. Higher taxes just chase the jobs out of the country completely.

No Im saying it would be easier for a business to be able to handle American minimum wage workers pay if that business didn't have such a high tax burden. Lower taxes would offset the higher pay a legal American citizen gets over hiring an illegal under the table. Then businesses wouldnt be able to bitch about hiring illegals because they cant afford 7.25 an hour for an American.

[mkbar80]

If the LE's are going to be held liable for enforcement, I wish the AZ legislature should have helped them out a bit by being more specific about the mechanics of verification. That being said, I'm a huge supporter of this law and wish the state of Indiana would follow suit.

I've heard they have made some changes in the law...any LE's have an opinion on these changes?