British Petroleum.

[Shooter101]

Say whats on your mind About BP. Come on yall let it out!
click on this link to see who they Own. Do you really do business with or by their products?

http://www.bp.com/sectiongenericarti...tentId=7037996

[Abraxas]

Personally, I have no issue with them. The complaints are gonna start to fly after this accident down in the gulf. Some will be founded but the majority will not. Knowing how we demonize all oil companies in this country, I figure that the US owned companies will either be run out of business or out of the country. Given that, I figure t we will have to depend on foreign owned oil like BP and Dutch owned Shell. Of course we will be getting screwed , but hey it always hurts when you shoot yourself.

[PaulL]

My experience with them has been that they talk big and then don't do jack shite to fix their issues. They seem to worry too much about offending people instead of getting rid of dead weight inside the company. They're also very quick to blame some 3rd party, usually a contractor hired by BP, for things their own people screw up. The ISOM explosion in Texas City was a prime example. Some BP maintenance jackoff didn't do his job, some BP operator jackoff didn't do his job, the unit exploded, and they instantly blamed a contractor. There's a culture of complacency on that site, and I suspect it's prevalent on other sites as well.

That said, a lot of people in my line of work have made a truckload of money off of BP and continue to do so, albeit in condition orange...

[Abraxas]

They seem to worry too much about offending people

They are British. What else would you expect, just look at their country. They are in far worse shape than we are.

[ralph]

My experience with them has been that they talk big and then don't do jack shite to fix their issues. They seem to worry too much about offending people instead of getting rid of dead weight inside the company. They're also very quick to blame some 3rd party, usually a contractor hired by BP, for things their own people screw up. The ISOM explosion in Texas City was a prime example. Some BP maintenance jackoff didn't do his job, some BP operator jackoff didn't do his job, the unit exploded, and they instantly blamed a contractor. There's a culture of complacency on that site, and I suspect it's prevalent on other sites as well.

That said, a lot of people in my line of work have made a truckload of money off of BP and continue to do so, albeit in condition orange...

You are quite right..I've worked at a BP refinery (I'm not stating where, as I might have to go back someday) But I myself, have been on the receiving end of said BP jackoff's who did not/would not do their job, Twice, I've almost gotten killed, One other time, I and everyone else had to run out of the refinery as a fire started, My partner and I were in the next unit over, up on a scaffold about 60-70' when the fire started...I was never so scared in my life...

[Mac5.56]

BP has one of the worst safety records in the industry. That's all anyone needs to know. You can also see my last post in the Gulf Spill thread to see where I'm coming from.

[ForTehNguyen]

so quick to place blame. No one has any idea if Transocean screwed up capping BPs well that Transocean was contracted to drill, or Cameron's subsea wellhead was defective. I suggest waiting for an actual investigation.

[ralph]

so quick to place blame. No one has any idea if Transocean screwed up capping BPs well that Transocean was contracted to drill, or Cameron's subsea wellhead was defective. I suggest waiting for an actual investigation.

At this point, I don't think it's going to make much difference, it's still BP's well, and they are responsible, and if they (BP) don't come up with an idea to get this well to quit leaking and soon, this could turn into the single largest enviromental disaster the world has ever seen. I've only worked in BP's refinerys, and my experience's there have been mixed.

[ForTehNguyen]

BP is responsible for the cleanup, but not the accident (so far). No one knows in detail what happened with the accident yet. Valdez spilled 250k barrels all at once of heavy thick nasty sulfur crude. I dunno about calling the recent one the "worst oil spill ever the world has ever seen" At the current rate of 5000 barrels a day it would take 50 days to leak that amount, far more controllable than 50 days spilled at once. Damage and spill control teams were literally a couple hours away and came immediately upon the disaster. By contrast the gulf crude is a hell of a lot lighter and cleaner than the nasty stuff Valdez spilled. Look at pictures of both spills, you wouldn't want to clean up Valdez oil. Nor have I seen pictures of birds or sealife coated in oil yet. Seems well controlled to me, it couldve been a lot worse. When the Horizon sank it kinked the casing pipe where the drill pipe goes inside, and like a kinked garden hose it limits the flow. Lucked out bigtime.

I am not taking sides or defending anyone but this fearmongering I keep seeing is annoying when I havent seen any footage of widespread environmental damage to shoreline. Notice how everyone has to use the words "could" "potential" They wouldn't have to use those words if it really was. From what it looks like now, it looks no where near as bad as previous spills. Total oil spilt by platforms or wells is almost nothing compared to how much has been spilled by tankers and barges and most of it by foreign nations not the US.

1967
March 18, Cornwall, Eng.: Torrey Canyon ran aground, spilling 38 million gallons of crude oil off the Scilly Islands.

1976
Dec. 15, Buzzards Bay, Mass.: Argo Merchant ran aground and broke apart southeast of Nantucket Island, spilling its entire cargo of 7.7 million gallons of fuel oil.

1977
April, North Sea: blowout of well in Ekofisk oil field leaked 81 million gallons.

1978
March 16, off Portsall, France: wrecked supertanker Amoco Cadiz spilled 68 million gallons, causing widespread environmental damage over 100 mi of Brittany coast.

1979
June 3, Gulf of Mexico: exploratory oil well Ixtoc 1 blew out, spilling an estimated 140 million gallons of crude oil into the open sea. Although it is one of the largest known oil spills, it had a low environmental impact.

July 19, Tobago: the Atlantic Empress and the Aegean Captain collided, spilling 46 million gallons of crude. While being towed, the Atlantic Empress spilled an additional 41 million gallons off Barbados on Aug. 2.

1983
Feb. 4, Persian Gulf, Iran: Nowruz Field platform spilled 80 million gallons of oil.

Aug. 6, Cape Town, South Africa: the Spanish tanker Castillo de Bellver caught fire, spilling 78 million gallons of oil off the coast.

1988
July 6, North Sea off Scotland: 166 workers killed in explosion and fire on Occidental Petroleum's Piper Alpha rig in North Sea; 64 survivors. It is the world's worst offshore oil disaster.

Nov. 10, Saint John's, Newfoundland: Odyssey spilled 43 million gallons of oil.

1989
March 24, Prince William Sound, Alaska: tanker Exxon Valdez hit an undersea reef and spilled 10 million–plus gallons of oil into the water, causing the worst oil spill in U.S. history.

Dec. 19, off Las Palmas, the Canary Islands: explosion in Iranian supertanker, the Kharg-5, caused 19 million gallons of crude oil to spill into Atlantic Ocean about 400 mi north of Las Palmas, forming a 100-square-mile oil slick.

1990
June 8, off Galveston, Tex.: Mega Borg released 5.1 million gallons of oil some 60 nautical miles south-southeast of Galveston as a result of an explosion and subsequent fire in the pump room.

1991
Jan. 23–27, southern Kuwait: during the Persian Gulf War, Iraq deliberately released 240–460 million gallons of crude oil into the Persian Gulf from tankers 10 mi off Kuwait. Spill had little military significance. On Jan. 27, U.S. warplanes bombed pipe systems to stop the flow of oil.

April 11, Genoa, Italy: Haven spilled 42 million gallons of oil in Genoa port.

May 28, Angola: ABT Summer exploded and leaked 15–78 million gallons of oil off the coast of Angola. It's not clear how much sank or burned.

1992
March 2, Fergana Valley, Uzbekistan: 88 million gallons of oil spilled from an oil well.

1993
Aug. 10, Tampa Bay, Fla.: three ships collided, the barge Bouchard B155, the freighter Balsa 37, and the barge Ocean 255. The Bouchard spilled an estimated 336,000 gallons of No. 6 fuel oil into Tampa Bay.

1994
Sept. 8, Russia: dam built to contain oil burst and spilled oil into Kolva River tributary. U.S. Energy Department estimated spill at 2 million barrels. Russian state-owned oil company claimed spill was only 102,000 barrels.

1996
Feb. 15, off Welsh coast: supertanker Sea Empress ran aground at port of Milford Haven, Wales, spewed out 70,000 tons of crude oil, and created a 25-mile slick.

1999
Dec. 12, French Atlantic coast: Maltese-registered tanker Erika broke apart and sank off Britanny, spilling 3 million gallons of heavy oil into the sea.

2000
Jan. 18, off Rio de Janeiro: ruptured pipeline owned by government oil company, Petrobras, spewed 343,200 gallons of heavy oil into Guanabara Bay.

Nov. 28, Mississippi River south of New Orleans: oil tanker Westchester lost power and ran aground near Port Sulphur, La., dumping 567,000 gallons of crude oil into lower Mississippi. Spill was largest in U.S. waters since Exxon Valdez disaster in March 1989.

2002
Nov. 13, Spain: Prestige suffered a damaged hull and was towed to sea and sank. Much of the 20 million gallons of oil remains underwater.

2003
July 28, Pakistan: The Tasman Spirit, a tanker, ran aground near the Karachi port, and eventually cracked into two pieces. One of its four oil tanks burst open, leaking 28,000 tons of crude oil into the sea.

2004
Dec. 7, Unalaska, Aleutian Islands, Alaska: A major storm pushed the M/V Selendang Ayu up onto a rocky shore, breaking it in two. 337,000 gallons of oil were released, most of which was driven onto the shoreline of Makushin and Skan Bays.

2005
Aug.-Sept., New Orleans, Louisiana: The Coast Guard estimated that more than 7 million gallons of oil were spilled during Hurricane Katrina from various sources, including pipelines, storage tanks and industrial plants.

2006
June 19, Calcasieu River, Louisiana: An estimated 71,000 barrels of waste oil were released from a tank at the CITGO Refinery on the Calcasieu River during a violent rain storm.

July 15, Beirut, Lebanon: The Israeli navy bombs the Jieh coast power station, and between three million and ten million gallons of oil leaks into the sea, affecting nearly 100 miles of coastline. A coastal blockade, a result of the war, greatly hampers outside clean-up efforts.

August 11th, Guimaras island, The Philippines: A tanker carrying 530,000 gallons of oil sinks off the coast of the Philippines, putting the country's fishing and tourism industries at great risk. The ship sinks in deep water, making it virtually unrecoverable, and it continues to emit oil into the ocean as other nations are called in to assist in the massive clean-up effort.

2007
December 7, South Korea: Oil spill causes environmental disaster, destroying beaches, coating birds and oysters with oil, and driving away tourists with its stench. The Hebei Spirit collides with a steel wire connecting a tug boat and barge five miles off South Korea's west coast, spilling 2.8 million gallons of crude oil. Seven thousand people are trying to clean up 12 miles of oil-coated coast.

2008
July 25, New Orleans, Louisiana: A 61-foot barge, carrying 419,000 gallons of heavy fuel, collides with a 600-foot tanker ship in the Mississippi River near New Orleans. Hundreds of thousands of gallons of fuel leak from the barge, causing a halt to all river traffic while cleanup efforts commence to limit the environmental fallout on local wildlife.

2009
March 11, Queensland, Australia: During Cyclone Hamish, unsecured cargo aboard the container ship MV Pacific Adventurer came loose on deck and caused the release of 52,000 gallons of heavy fuel and 620 tons of ammonium nitrate, a fertilizer, into the Coral Sea. About 60 km of the Sunshine Coast was covered in oil, prompting the closure of half the area's beaches.

2010
Jan. 23, Port Arthur, Texas: The oil tanker Eagle Otome and a barge collide in the Sabine-Neches Waterway, causing the release of about 462,000 gallons of crude oil. Environmental damage was minimal as about 46,000 gallons were recovered and 175,000 gallons were dispersed or evaporated, according to the U.S. Coast Guard.

April 24, Gulf of Mexico: The Deepwater Horizon, a semi-submersible drilling rig, sank on April 22, after an April 20th explosion on the vessel. Eleven people died in the blast. When the rig sank, the riser—the 5,000-foot-long pipe that connects the wellhead to the rig—became detached and began leaking oil. In addition, U.S. Coast Guard investigators also discovered a leak in the wellhead itself. As much as 5,000 gallons of oil per day was leaking into the water, threatening wildlife along the Louisiana Coast.

Spill from a barge or tanker - 21
Spill from a drilling or production platform - 7
Spill from a pipeline or storage facility - 4
Spill as the result of hostile action - 2

[kombos]

Thanks for the info......is it 5000 gals or 5000 barrels a day?