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    Besides it being a 'holster', I see the sling as a way to retain my rifle in case you are knocked on your ass by XYZ. Hit hard by a blunt object, car, bicycle, door, etc. Tripped on your kid's skateboard, marbles, junk, debris, you name it.

    An out of control, possibly with injuries, kind of flat on your ass. In those kind of cases I like to have the possibility of having my rifle close to the body as opposed to it being several feet away from me.

    With a quick release in case you get hung up and get trapped by your slung rifle.

    Unlikely any of these things will happen to me, but shit does happen.

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    Quote Originally Posted by The_Katar View Post
    When you grab your pistol off of your nightstand to respond to a bump-in-the-night, are you wearing a holster?
    Not always but most of the time. I keep my pants and some slip on shoes next to the bed. My pistol stays in a paddle holster so I can grab it and go. This wasn't my point though...the OP made it seem like the instructors were taking the sling out of the equation in more situations than just HD. If they were speaking of only HD then I can see where they are coming from but I don't agree with it.

    While we are on the subject, I think using a holster for HD for bump in the nite type stuff is something to consider at the very least.
    Last edited by msap; 05-03-10 at 12:35.

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    Context is everything.


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    agreed

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    Quote Originally Posted by rob_s View Post
    I'm thinking I need a rail or sling attachment for my HAK sheath.

    Or, maybe a Radi-mag type doodad that holds a loaded G26 in lieu of another magazine? "My secondary is ON my primary!"

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    Quote Originally Posted by mattjmcd View Post
    Or, maybe a Radi-mag type doodad that holds a loaded G26 in lieu of another magazine? "My secondary is ON my primary!"
    great 6 months from now Magpul will have this in production

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    Guys to clarify and support the OP's original statement:

    The PFC guys were VERY anti sling. Hands down not a good idea by their training and experience.

    However they made it very clear that there are a (very) few times when a sling is of use.

    But they were just as quick to point out that the risk to benefit equation that they use suggests that slings are less than desirable in the vast preponderance of time.

    Again, I personally do not agree. I like and use a sling for a host of reasons and in theory I'm prepared to deal with those times when a sling isn't a positive.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Pathfinder Ops View Post
    Guys to clarify and support the OP's original statement:

    The PFC guys were VERY anti sling. Hands down not a good idea by their training and experience.

    However they made it very clear that there are a (very) few times when a sling is of use.

    But they were just as quick to point out that the risk to benefit equation that they use suggests that slings are less than desirable in the vast preponderance of time.

    Again, I personally do not agree. I like and use a sling for a host of reasons and in theory I'm prepared to deal with those times when a sling isn't a positive.
    Thanks for the added comments.

    Yes, the PFC guys were quick to add that "always" and "never" were not good concepts in their eyes. They reminded us that WE needed to train with/without certain pieces of gear and make up our own minds. You cannot ask for more than that.

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    IMHO a sling is something you should virtually always have on a longarm, even just a simple Uncle Mike's sling is fine for many applications. You sometimes have to sling it to climb a fence or anything where both hands are necessary to do something. You don't want to have to lay it on the ground or set it down that's for sure. It's the very first piece of addt'l equipment my rifles get.

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    I CCW frequently so I may indeed have a handgun on when pottering about my property and even when investigating a disturbance, so a transition to a secondary wouldn't be too much of a stretch. If I have reason to go outside the house at night I would certainly take a carbine with a sling so I can open gates, right garbage cans, see to animals without having to put the rifle down. If some disturbance wasn't the usual animal or strong wind but an evil doer then I am not too worried if they try to grab my rifle or sling, as I would have generally shot them several times before that.

    The specialized 2 pt and 1 pt slings of today are not the old admin carry straps, so I prefer to have a sling on a rifle although when in the safe I typically bungee the sling to the forearm so it is out of the way, but available.

    This is a VCAS sling simply bungeed to the forearm a quick tug and the sling is available but when bungeed is out of the way and doesn't interfere with operation.



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    Last edited by Cameron; 05-03-10 at 21:44.

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