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    Quote Originally Posted by Littlelebowski View Post
    -using a cleaning brush for the bore improperly so that you fret the
    crown
    So then when I was in boot and my DI took a dremmel to make the crown(if you could call it that after he was done) on my M16 shiny for final inspection, that was bad? When they started doing that all I could think was that I was so happy that I had already qualed.
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    Quote Originally Posted by em2b96p View Post
    I'm sure you will cause more wear by running a dirty weapon as opposed to a clean and lubed weapon.
    Disagree. More damage has been done by cleaning than neglect. You can hose off carbon buildup. You cannot hose off damage done by overcleaning.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Abraxas View Post
    So then when I was in boot and my DI took a dremmel to make the crown(if you could call it that after he was done) on my M16 shiny for final inspection, that was bad? When they started doing that all I could think was that I was so happy that I had already qualed.
    Doesn't surprise me but disappointing nonetheless. Was he a pog?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Littlelebowski View Post
    Doesn't surprise me but disappointing nonetheless. Was he a pog?
    Yes he was. The one grunt DI we had got in trouble and got court marshaled earlier on. All of the rest had been either admin or motor T.
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    Nothing like a born again hardass pog DI

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    One point I see repeated over the years, when the topic of cleaning arises:

    - I think some people get “over cleaning” confused with “improper cleaning”.


    I believe regardless of how many times I properly clean a weapon, it will simply not cause damage. At some point though, I will be wasting my time. But that would be because once clean; the weapon can physically get no cleaner. If I scrub a bolt assembly with CLP and a tooth brush, and do this over a period of 3 days, am I damaging the bolt assembly? No, I’m not. But yet, I’ve been in units that utilized the “3-day/3-separate cleaning” process and this is where problems arise.

    Using improper cleaning methods, can ruin a weapon. Depending on the method, it may take only one incident, or it could be the use of repeated improper cleaning methods over a period of time. Take that same bolt assembly, give to a Private who knows that after this cleaning session, he still has two more cleaning sessions to go through, then that Private will start to improvise and try to come up with quicker, easier ways to get the job done.

    And that is where and how we start damaging weapons.
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    Quote Originally Posted by em2b96p View Post
    I'm sure you will cause more wear by running a dirty weapon as opposed to a clean and lubed weapon.

    I try to clean my AR and SIG after range trips. I do not clean my AK or 870. The only time my AK gets any sort of lube is WD-40 to the outside to prevent rust.
    Not really. As long as there is sufficient lube on your weapon, everywhere two pieces of clearanced machinery that move together, the moving action combined with the lube will "swipe" foreign matter from between the moving pieces.

    The supposed abrasive paste that is formed by too much lube is bullshit. To be sure, some particulate matter is suspended in lubricant, but a small amount of lube creates the exact same condition, but is insufficient lube for the swiping action to happen. No lube at all is even worse.

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    Quote Originally Posted by The_Katar View Post
    I find this amazing. You OCD clean your AR but you neither clean nor lube your AK. Do you think an AK is a magical device? Is it not a simple machine with reciprocating metal-to-metal contact?
    Agreed. All machines and investments of time, money or emotion (sometimes a gun is all 3) need proper care.



    As to the cleaning too much.. are you rubbing the finish off yet?

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    I'm not too religious about cleaning any of my guns, quite frankly. I just exercise a little common sense. If the gun is obviously getting filthy, then yeah, it's time to get things taken care of.

    Unless I have time to waste, I'm not going to strip down my AR and M&P after just 100-200 rounds or so. I DO keep a very close eye on lubrication however.

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    Quote Originally Posted by 120mm View Post
    The supposed abrasive paste that is formed by too much lube is bullshit. To be sure, some particulate matter is suspended in lubricant, but a small amount of lube creates the exact same condition, but is insufficient lube for the swiping action to happen. No lube at all is even worse.
    Thank you. Don't ever try to say the above on a 1911 forum

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