AAR: Vickers Tactical AK Operators Class - May 1-2, 2010 - Fuquay-Varina, NC

**Mr. Smith** · 05-05-10, 19:11

Originally Posted by JBRIII

Sherman,

Those are awesome gloves, where did you get them

Seriously great reviews guys. I am hoping Mr. Smith can bring Larry to a class here in Louisville (Knob Creek) again. I would love to take his AK class. See you guys at HRCC in October.

Rebecca could have a blooming second career.

John

We will get Larry hear in 2011. I have already talked to him on the mater.

**JBRIII** · 05-05-10, 19:26

Originally Posted by Mr. Smith

We will get Larry hear in 2011. I have already talked to him on the mater.

Great news Joe, sign me up!!

**m4fun** · 05-05-10, 21:24

Gents - looks like a great class! Larry's AK classes rock and lots of good info to get there. I took it in 2009 and it was great.

Like seeing some different setups there.

**Robb Jensen** · 05-05-10, 21:47

Great AARs guys. I've trained under LAV twice now. I wish more, he's one hell of an instructor and is one of the best when it comes to identifying where you need help with your shooting. He's more about the quality of the training vs. ballistic masturbation and I respect that.

On the AK triggers I agree, I've seen many not truly 'drop-in'. It's important to function check after installing stuff like this.

**GermanSynergy** · 05-05-10, 21:57

Here's a cool pic of me and another shooter

and another....

Here are some more:

**voron** · 05-06-10, 08:49

I am glad to hear that Larry. I was contacted by a friend to give some light on this issue. When we sent you the sight base, it is a bit chaotic prior to adjustment and it can be a little tricky, once it is dialed in, it WILL stay zeroed.

I have probably put down 4k+ down my AKs with the tech-sites installed and never had an issue with them keeping zero. I shoot high power with them (our club is 200 yards only, thus shooting reduced 600 yards target) for 2 years now and sites have been dead on.

We had a customer install it on another Romy, and it was fine. I really dont know what went wrong, but would be happy to give any input/help on the matter, so feel free to email me, you have my contact info.

there are a few things to keep in mind regarding tech sites. They manufactured for those who used to shoot m-14s, m4s, m1s, and so fourth. Guys who prefer peeps/cannot see the AK blade leaf very well.

I personally dont run these on my regular AKs, but match guns only for shooting bulls eye and so fourth. for CQB one cannot beat standard AK sight.

so it really up to the shooter to find what they really like, and so fourth.

regarding the requirement of having 3 arms to remove the damn thing, yes..there is some truth to it. For many used to it, it is a non-issue, but for those just getting started with them, I agree, it can be a royal pain in the ass.
depending on the manufacturer of the rifle, the dust cover will have a bit of play. This was done to achieve maximum compatibilities with many AKs. My veprs are super tight. Almost no play
My buddies romy g wobbles like crazy, but maintains zero.

anyhow Larry, looks like the class was a blast, I wish I was there. I guess its already been a year since I was there last. Time flies.
perhaps I will make it next year....
take care
Vasiliy
p.s. Tim, i am still in the market for hiring you for my wedding, since you take the best pix!!!!

Originally Posted by Larry Vickers

I'm not ready to give up on the Tech Sights quite yet

To be honest I never really took the time to get a good zero - I was adjusting on the fly which is never a good idea but common when you are the lead instructor and the class must go on

The frustrating part is I put them on my traveling AK - a Romy that was plenty accurate and had a great zero - I finally gave up and went to my tricked out Arsenal 106 with Micro - which has a good zero and allowed me to hit the 12" x 12' plate at 200 yds offhand

One thing I will say about the Tech Sight setup is because of the design requirements it now makes getting the top cover off quick and easy virtually impossible - which can be a problem with some malfunction clearance situations

So let me get a good zero and give the Tech Sight a real shake out - then I will tell you what i think

Cheers

LAV

**d90king** · 05-06-10, 11:40

Originally Posted by voron

I am glad to hear that Larry. I was contacted by a friend to give some light on this issue. When we sent you the sight base, it is a bit chaotic prior to adjustment and it can be a little tricky, once it is dialed in, it WILL stay zeroed.

I have probably put down 4k+ down my AKs with the tech-sites installed and never had an issue with them keeping zero. I shoot high power with them (our club is 200 yards only, thus shooting reduced 600 yards target) for 2 years now and sites have been dead on.

We had a customer install it on another Romy, and it was fine. I really dont know what went wrong, but would be happy to give any input/help on the matter, so feel free to email me, you have my contact info.

there are a few things to keep in mind regarding tech sites. They manufactured for those who used to shoot m-14s, m4s, m1s, and so fourth. Guys who prefer peeps/cannot see the AK blade leaf very well.

I personally dont run these on my regular AKs, but match guns only for shooting bulls eye and so fourth. for CQB one cannot beat standard AK sight.

so it really up to the shooter to find what they really like, and so fourth.

regarding the requirement of having 3 arms to remove the damn thing, yes..there is some truth to it. For many used to it, it is a non-issue, but for those just getting started with them, I agree, it can be a royal pain in the ass.
depending on the manufacturer of the rifle, the dust cover will have a bit of play. This was done to achieve maximum compatibilities with many AKs. My veprs are super tight. Almost no play
My buddies romy g wobbles like crazy, but maintains zero.

anyhow Larry, looks like the class was a blast, I wish I was there. I guess its already been a year since I was there last. Time flies.
perhaps I will make it next year....
take care
Vasiliy
p.s. Tim, i am still in the market for hiring you for my wedding, since you take the best pix!!!!

Nice to see you pop in over here! Hope all is well with you and yours....

**SoDak** · 05-06-10, 15:31

Sounds like a great class to attend. I'll be looking forward to the day when I have the time to travel to one of those classes.

I had a quick question about the gear on of the students was using. I see one of the guys was using some alice pouches on an lbe. Does anyone know how he fared using that setup? I've been looking at picking up a few of those pouches, but I don't think I've ever seen somebody use them.