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    Quote Originally Posted by Magic_Salad0892 View Post
    - 5 Coil Extractor Spring
    'bout the only thing you posted that I agree with. since you asked.

    All the rest of that spendy, trendy, stuff you posted costs money that would be better served in training and practice. I'll take a shooter with a stock RRA Entry Tactical with a couple of training classes and a few thousand rounds fired under his belt over any gunshop commando with the same amount of money sunk into his gas-piston, jesus-jizzed-on, heavy-barrel, whirlygig rifle and no goddamn idea which end the bullets come out of.

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    I was assuming he had the training. I didn't really read the thread.

    You shouldn't even be posting about modifications if you're not proficient.

    You need to know how to deal with an unequipped, faulty/malfunctioning rifle, or unideal weapon before you make modifications to your ''go to'' rifle.

    You should take a carbine course with a bare bones AR-15 before an ambidextrous magazine release, red dot sight, or suppressor even touches the rifle. (I did.)

    I plan to take an AR-15 armourer's course to get even more proficient with the platform, and should have before I even made an adjustment to my stock gun.

    My above recommendations, are ones I believe are mandatory though, any gun, regardless or type, or caliber, needs to be conceivable as a self defence firearm in order to justify purchase. IMO.
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    an out of the box Colt 6920, BCM4, Daniel Defense, or truthfully S&W M&P or even a gone-over RRA or BM is MORE than serviceable as a self defense gun. Christ, an Olympic Arms and 20 minutes in capable hands is a more than serviceable self defense gun.

    Most of what you posted is simply nothing more than a transfer device, designed to transfer money from your pocket to theirs, and while it may have some benefit somewhere to someone is nowhere near what I would call "mandatory", not by a long stretch.

    Let's restate things to be clear:
    Colt 6920
    Aimpoint
    Sling
    Ammo
    Magazines
    Training
    Practice
    Ammo
    Practice
    Practice
    Ammo
    Practice
    White light
    Low-light training
    Ammo
    Practice
    Practice
    Ammo
    Practice

    Then start worrying about things like rails, jesus-jizz, alternate operating systems, etc. Maybe. I think that most people that actually follow that plan figure out that they don't have a need for any of that other junk.

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    Training and practice are the best modifications to a weapon, then the weapon needs to be fit to the operator. Then they need to train with their weapon of choice.

    But in a platform that is reliable to the needs I have determined for myself through training, malfunction clearance, inspection, practice, modifying, and more practice.

    That is the list I've come up with for me. It may not work for everybody.

    Granted, a lot of that is for a short barrelled, suppressed, or neglected rifle.

    Basically adverse conditions modifications.

    Also alternate operating systems aren't mandatory even if a piston is my preference. ''Piston pushing'' is unacceptable. I run an LWRCi gun, but would willingly bet my life on a DDM4, BCM 11.5, Mk. 18 Mod. 0, Colt LE6921, any day of the week.

    I'd like to know your reasoning behind why my modifications are redundant in your eyes. I respect your opinion, and would appreciate input, sir.
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    I think you're fixing what ain't broke, to put it simply. All these special parts and coatings, weird springs and widgets, etc. I don't get. Are they hurting anything? I don't know, I guess not other than separating you from cash that would likely be better spent elsewhere, but if you're getting your training and practice and still want to put all that stuff on/in your gun then have at it, it's your gun.

    I know from watching a shooter or two over the years as well as my own experience that the best recipe for reliability is a quality firearm, well lubed, with decent ammo, and that tinkering and fiddling are recipes for problems far more often then they actually solve any problems. Problems which are most often more a figment of the user's imagination than anything else. Everyone thinks their own little piece of voodoo is "mandatory", but if you start with a quality firearm to begin with it most often isn't even a nice option, let alone mandatory.

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    I think you're right, but these quality run rifles work better in adverse conditions with a few small adjustments, such as heavier buffers, and buffer springs, and extractors.

    The extra coatings are to help ''dry lubricity'' and are proven. All of them work together.

    Except for a gas block mounted front sight, that's just user preference, and I can't get used to a normal one now.

    In my experience, if any of these upgrades made a faulty or less reliable rifle, then I wouldn't do it.

    Think of it as my own personal version of Ken Elmore's SAW Reliability Package.

    I think that's what the guy's name and service is. I could be wrong, it's on here somewhere. He worked for Colt Defence a number of years, and does this.
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    In what adverse conditions have you used these rifles with these mods in, MagicSalad?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Magic_Salad0892 View Post
    Think of it as my own personal version of Ken Elmore's SAW Reliability Package.
    How do your qualifications and experiences stack up to Ken's? What have you found lacking in the TDP-spec guns and what has failed on you and how that makes you believe what you're doing is better?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Magic_Salad0892 View Post
    The most combat reliable AR-15s made should have the following: (IMO.)


    SNIP



    Jesus Christ. Its a wonder any of our guns even get a round off without all that jazz. Oh wait they go thousands of rounds without being cleaned, and still work just fine.

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    Adverse conditions I've ran the gun in:

    11.5'' Suppressed DDM4 that I used to own, that I got rid of very recently to my sister.

    Weapon went numerous times to the 5000 (highest was 6000, where the gun became a bolt action.) round mark, in rapid fire without cleaning and lubricant, in the rain, numerous times getting rain, and other debris in the bolt carrier group. To find out what worked, and what didn't.

    How does my experience stack up to Ken's?

    It doesn't. My experience doesn't stack up to the pros.

    Things on standard carbines that failed me?

    On higher round counts with light buffers and no cleaning, my rifle would fail to go into battery, or fail to extract, due to debris in the extractor. I was also having magazine problems due to them not being cleaned either. (Totally different issue.) and the rifle not being able to feed them properly. I think the feeding issue was also magazine related as it didn't happen with Lancer's or PMAGs.

    Basically I want to make my dirtier DI gun run better, some of these things go on my KAC gun, other things, don't need to.

    Also made them a hell of a lot faster to clean, carbon, and unburned gunpowder didn't corrode on BCG, and trigger unit.

    One reason I'm for gas block sights, as opposed to sight posts, is rust due to non-parkerization under FSBs. I don't know who does, and doesn't do this. So I stay away from it altogether. Even the LWRCi guns with FSBs.

    I'm trying to find a solution for myself for the cutoff point in heavier buffers in high round counts. Where debris makes it so that the BCG cannot be pushed all the way back, and fails to cycle, and go into battery. It's been mentioned before recently, and ever since I've read it. I've been researching a solution, this has been a very recent experiment for me. Actually the last two days.

    I'm getting ready to go out and put rounds down range, to experiment.

    With a suppressed gun, these things make a much bigger difference.

    Input wanted.
    Last edited by Magic_Salad0892; 05-12-10 at 11:48.
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