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    Question Was I out of line?

    I was cruising the interweb at another forum where I am a member when I stumbled across a thread title "DPMS best start" so I clicked! Once inside the op stated that after looking around he has made his mind up that DPMS is his brand of choice going on to say that throne he was looking at was $1000.00!!! I offered some friendly advise after going to Bravo Co, and Grants site about being able to buy a BCM rifle for about the same or less then a grand! I also offered a break down of what the BCM would include as far as parts and components, then a bunch of dude jumped on my case telling him to get the DPMS and it is a great rifle and with suit him fine and more or less made me out to be a snob which was not intended! I thought I was trying to steer someones the right direction! Did I cross a line?

    This was my post to him!

    Here you could have a complete BCM (Bravo Company Manufacturing) AR15 for less or close. While I don't have anything against DPMS, I think you would have to look long and hand to find someone to tell you that DPMS is better the BCM! DARE I REFERENCE "THE CHART"

    Now while I don't believe the chart is the perfect answer for newbies, it should help you make a informed decision, and iF you take a look at the chart you will see that the BCM is as good or better in every category, which brings me to my conclusion!

    WHY PAY MORE OR THE SAME FOR LESS!

    BCM uppers offer these Mil-Spec Features:
    * M4 Feed Ramp Barrel Extension
    * M4 Feed Ramp Flat Top Receiver
    * T-Marked Upper Receivers
    * USGI 1/7 Twist Rates
    * USGI 5.56 NATO Chambers
    * Mil-Spec 11595 - 4150 Grade Barrel Steel
    * Chrome Lined Bore and Chamber
    * Manganese Phosphate Barrel Finish
    * Mil-Spec F-Marked Forged Front Sights
    * USGI Government Profile Barrels
    * HPT (High Pressure Test) Barrels
    * MPI (Magnetic Particle Inspected) Barrels
    * BCM auto BCG
    * BCM Gunfighter Charging handle

    $636.00

    * All BCM4 Lower Receiver Groups feature
    * Machined from Aluminum Forgings 7075 T6
    * Hardcoat Anodizing: MIL-A-8625F, Type III, Class 2
    * BCM Milspec Receiver Extention
    * USGI Mold M4 Stock
    * Staked M4 Lock Nut
    * USGI H Buffer (1 GI Tungsten, 2 Steel)
    * Magpul MOE Enhanced Trigger Guard
    * Low Shelf for RDIAS installation
    * Low Shelf for Accuwedge use
    * Un-notched Hammer compatible with 9mm use
    * Fire Controls marked SAFE and SEMI

    $350.00

    $636.00
    +350.00
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    $986.00 Grand Total with no salestax
    Last edited by michschi; 05-06-10 at 00:34.

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    Nonsense, obviously they don't know what their talking about. You can't go out of line when suggesting something. Ignore the mindless mob.
    Doom On You Mr. Tango!

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    You gave your .02, about all you can do really. You were not out of line. I tend to just voice my opinions in threads like that and proceed to ignore them after I hit post.

    I recently had someone get all pissy at me for suggesting they reevaluate some accessories they purchased and were planning to purchase. The guy bought a UTG rail and was looking to add a Magpul ACS stock

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    Nope not at all, here in Canada my friend got a Norinco Chinese AR15 Clone. I got an LMT he whined about how I over payed and how his Norinco was just as good. He also got pissy when I told him I'd be buying an Aimpoint and not the same Vortex Aimpoint clone that he got.

    I find that most people that knock the real deal, really just can't afford it and want it. Your not a snob they're just sore losers.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Tom Swift View Post
    Nope not at all, here in Canada my friend got a Norinco Chinese AR15 Clone. I got an LMT he whined about how I over payed and how his Norinco was just as good. He also got pissy when I told him I'd be buying an Aimpoint and not the same Vortex Aimpoint clone that he got.

    I find that most people that knock the real deal, really just can't afford it and want it. Your not a snob they're just sore losers.
    This is the part that bothers me is that I was showing that you could have a rifle the caliber of the BCM over a DPMS for the same or less money and they were arguing the the products where comparable to warrant the same cost!

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    You did nothing wrong, but to avoid all the crap, I've occasionally sent PM's to guys on other forums when they seem to be going down the wrong path. Guys who already own something can get defensive if you say that there is something better out there. I'd rather not start a thread fight, so I've decided that a politely worded PM is the way to go. Plus, you don't run the risk of embarrassing the OP publicly, while offering him good advice than he can take or leave. I don't really feel that I'm an expert on the AR platform and I don't want to present myself as one publicly. I'm just someone who has read and taken what I think is good advice from those on this forum who know more than I do. That's how I've handled it at least.
    "COME AND TAKE IT"

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    After seeing too many pointless, confrontational, and often uninformed pissing over AR (and other firearms) brands and parts, I have decided to avoid them.

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    There is absolutely no way you should worry or get frustrated about idiocy on the internet, or in the real world for that matter. You did more than enough in providing a information about a superior alternative.

    The reality is that people make stupid choices everyday for a myriad of stupid reasons. There is not enough time in the day to argue with stupid people.

    The best thing that you can do, is to be an excellent example. Pony up and buy yourself another BCM! Got an M4, then get a middy, got a Recce then get an SPR. Be a wonderful example.

    Cameron

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    Don't tell the Goobers our secrets. SShhhhhhhh!

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    The vast majority of folks have never heard of BCM. And while DPMS is a dirty word here there are lots of folks who like them for one reason or another. You shared the knowledge you had and that's all one can ever do, it's up to them to use it or not.
    Peace, Jerry

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