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Thread: NFA laws on possession and SBR changing lengths ?.(done deal pics showin.)

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    Quote Originally Posted by demigod View Post
    JESUS there's a lot of people who like to dry hump the ATF.

    Common sense goes a long way in the NFA game, fr00ts!

    And if I read this constructive intent crap again.... Gee I have beer in my fridge and a car in my garage.... that's constructive intent to drive drunk.
    You like everyone here is entitled to your opinion (and you know about opinions). IIRC the ATF was alerted to WACO because a delivery driver saw a blue inert (aka dummy) hand grenade (which was not even regulated by ATF). And because of ATFs history now some people walk on egg shells around firearms regulations.
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    My reply was directed towards the comments about listing multiple lengths. Sorry if it was off topic.

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    Quote Originally Posted by gotm4 View Post
    And because of ATFs history now some people walk on egg shells around firearms regulations.
    Under the next administration, ATF could go back to its Janet Reno glory days or worse, I suppose!
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    We've covered this ground many times before, but I still believe the best way to deal with SBR legalities "in good faith" is to file the original application with the barrel length that you actually intend to use, just as we've always been instructed to do. In legal terms, once the rifle enters the NFA registry as an SBR, the heavy lifting is over.

    As GotM4 stated, if you want to add a different barrel length/upper later on, the best course of action is to just give BATF a heads-up in writing that "my registered SBR, serial number so-and-so is also being used with barrel lengths of 10" and 11.5" (or what-have-you), and you're covered.

    It's a win-win: your SBR will still be an SBR, and you've made full disclosure to the agency responsible for maintaining the records that authorize you to own it. Should anything be called into question later, you will have the requisite annotations in the file, and a BATF confirmation letter to make things manifestly clear to anyone with a need or compelling desire to know.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Army Chief View Post
    We've covered this ground many times before, but I still believe the best way to deal with SBR legalities "in good faith" is to file the original application with the barrel length that you actually intend to use, just as we've always been instructed to do. In legal terms, once the rifle enters the NFA registry as an SBR, the heavy lifting is over.

    As GotM4 stated, if you want to add a different barrel length/upper later on, the best course of action is to just give BATF a heads-up in writing that "my registered SBR, serial number so-and-so is also being used with barrel lengths of 10" and 11.5" (or what-have-you), and you're covered.

    It's a win-win: your SBR will still be an SBR, and you've made full disclosure to the agency responsible for maintaining the records that authorize you to own it. Should anything be called into question later, you will have the requisite annotations in the file, and a BATF comfirmation letter to make things manifestly clear to anyone with a need or compelling desire to know.

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    Sounds like the best advice.

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    Is there a form for this by any chance?

    I've read for years that all you had to do to cross a state line was write to them. There's actually a form that needs to be filled out with more than a serial number.

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    Quote Originally Posted by SuicideHz View Post
    Is there a form for this by any chance?

    I've read for years that all you had to do to cross a state line was write to them. There's actually a form that needs to be filled out with more than a serial number.
    Not a Form for notifying that you'll use different lengths/calibers. I just used a formal letter and made a copy of my Form 1s.

    For traveling interstate travel you'll need the 5320.20 Form.
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    Yes. I found that out 3 days before intended travel date. Luckily Derek got me set straight on who to give a ring.

    They accept faxed forms by the way.

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    So reading through this let me see if I have it all down.

    I just sent my lower to Orion to have it engraved with my trust info. When it comes back I am going to send in my form 1, so that if anything happens to the lower in transit it isn't my registered one.

    I listed barrel length on my yet to be subitted form 1 as 10.5" and the corresponding OAL as I plan on getting a LMT 10.5" upper.

    To be in the right I should probably mail the ATF a letter also listing my 16" middy upper and any sunsequent uppers I may purchase? Include it with the original form 1 or mail after form 1 is approved?

    If I were to go ahead and order the 10.5 and have it shipped and stored at an alternative location would I be GTG? Or just wait for everything to come through in due time?

    Thanks for clearing up my confusion. This will be my first NFA item.

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    Don't need to tell them about a 16" upper.

    Tell them what you are building on the form1. Tell them about the 11.5" or other afterwards.

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