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    Thanks for all of your help.

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    JWR075,

    Seriously, please think about this. Of course a 22" barrelled varmint rifle is going to be cumbersome. Having said that you really need to take a breath and relax. A 16" carbine would be more than sufficient and you don't really need to get her an SBR.

    I would under no circumstances give her a weapon capable of full auto fire for home defense. The amount of training required to be able to master shooting it takes a while. And you are liable for every round fired.

    I can tell you first hand even most experienced Tier 1 types use full auto very seldom.



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    id love a FA for range pimpin, but couldnt see myself using it for HD. unless of course, you are expecting a large group of people.

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    I understand the idea of getting a 16” barrel and skipping the whole SBR paper work. I was thinking that with a shorter barrel, it would be easier for her to use the weapon in the house.

    The idea of a FA is not just for protection, but like most of my firearms, they are also investment.

    One aside note, once a SBR is acquired can you attach other uppers in different calibers (like an 6.8 SBR) without having to file for another license.

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    Quote Originally Posted by JWR075 View Post

    The idea of a FA is not just for protection, but like most of my firearms, they are also investment.
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    You should ask a few people who have shot somebody in a civilian self-defense scenario what usually happens to the gun you use, then ask yourself again if a $14,000 RR M16 is something you want having an evidence number electropenciled into, then having it lay in the bottom of an evidence locker in a quarter-inch of water for a couple of years.

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    Quote Originally Posted by QuietShootr View Post




    It doesn't. Please stop dispensing bullshit advice.

    Thanks.


    Calling that bullshit is too nice.

    I have shot my Gunsite Remington 1187 with Vangcomp at various distances with every type of buckshot I could find. My father thought I was crazy until several hours later when he went to check on my and looked at the huge stack of B27 targets, sheet rock, and other materials I personally tested.

    Hip shooting is great for adding skylights to whatever room you are in. If you don't have it pointed in the right direction, you are not going to hit what you want to.

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    Quote Originally Posted by JWR075 View Post
    I understand about the cost of a full-auto, I was looking at purchasing a Pre-86 Colt complete lower with a RDIAS (local dealer has it only for 5500.00 with original paperwork from the owner) and attaching an upper to it.
    If you don't want it, please send me your dealer's contact info.

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    Quote Originally Posted by JWR075 View Post
    I understand the idea of getting a 16” barrel and skipping the whole SBR paper work. I was thinking that with a shorter barrel, it would be easier for her to use the weapon in the house.

    The idea of a FA is not just for protection, but like most of my firearms, they are also investment.

    One aside note, once a SBR is acquired can you attach other uppers in different calibers (like an 6.8 SBR) without having to file for another license.
    Yes, one SBR lower is good for as many uppers in whatever calibers you can afford. I started with a CMMG SBR with an 11.5" barrel and added several more. The 10.5" 6.5 Grendel is neat but, I'm thinking about an SBR 458Soccom now.

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    Quote Originally Posted by JWR075 View Post
    I understand the idea of getting a 16” barrel and skipping the whole SBR paper work. I was thinking that with a shorter barrel, it would be easier for her to use the weapon in the house.
    To your original question:
    Most first time SBR purchasers go with a 10.5" upper because they want more "shortness". 10.5" 5.56 uppers are hellaciously hard on your ears. Not to mention the fireball you get with most civilian ammo that will give you night blindness in a house. 14.5 inch barrels are popular for good reason. Personally, I have found a 12.5 to 13.0 inch barrel hits the sweet spot for me. I get more velocity and less flash and noise. I also run a suppressor because inside a house, they are all very loud. After a self defense shooting, you really want to hear what the police are try to tell you. You also might want to hear your wife/husband/kids after it's all said and done.

    For $1100 you can buy a COLT LE6920. Let your wife shoot it some and see if it works for her. If so, your done. If it is a little too long for her to navigate in a household barricade situation, then consider the SBR options again.

    Personally, I find my my Mini-Uzi to hit the sweet spot for what you describe and I own several machine guns including an M-16 and Full-size UZI SMG. A Mini-Uzi with an SWR Trident-9 is hard to beat in a household defensive barricade situation (I'll let the burglars have my old tube TV, VCR, $20 DVD player, etc.). Of course, my USSS 14" Remington 870 is a good choice too!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Sid Post View Post
    If you don't want it, please send me your dealer's contact info.
    This, too. Though a "factory Colt" for $4500 will probably turn out to be a clapped-out old P.A.W.S. casting with dicked up receiver extension threading and pin holes in the wrong places.

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