Foxtrot Drill...It's Mean!

**thopkins22** · 05-16-10, 03:07

From Jason Falla.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=I-mJngnFFBY

I imagine you have to be careful to not instill a crappy trigger pull attempting to make it happen faster though.

**brickbd** · 05-21-10, 10:01

Is there a video of him shooting the drill? Dont get me wrong or read into the post, I have no doubt he can do it live, I just want to actually see it. I am not finding it anywhere by anyone. Looks like a good mental drill, especially under stress!

**thopkins22** · 05-21-10, 10:49

The nature of it doesn't lend itself to live fire...and certainly not in that time frame.

You'd have to double the number of trigger pulls to do it with live ammo...I think.

**Iraq Ninja** · 05-21-10, 11:06

Brick,

It is a dry fire training drill. If you shoot it live, it ain't dry no more...

**brickbd** · 05-21-10, 11:59

Originally Posted by Iraq Ninja

Brick,

It is a dry fire training drill. If you shoot it live, it ain't dry no more...

TRUE! It's just that some drills that are dry fire drills seem to be a waste of time and circus like unless there is a practical application to apply them to. I can reload, load, dry fire, back flip with the best of'em but I love drills that bring reality of the mission to the game.

Before every session, I dry fire the course of fire to get that muscle memory down. Then I run drills under time constraints to bring on the stress. Again, I am not saying that this drill has no point so please don't start in on me, I'm just wondering the point then. Feel free to school me!

**thopkins22** · 05-21-10, 12:13

It's pretty well explained in the video. It's not meant to say, "you're likely to encounter three magazines with one round each and that round will be a dud, so we need to practice this."

You get to practice a draw, three trigger pulls, three malfunction drills, and three speed reloads.

You can practice them all separately if you like. But if you dry fire a lot like I do, it's nice to be able to integrate them all into one fluid drill.

And honestly one of the drawbacks to a lot of dry fire practice without incorporating malfunction drills became clear to me the other day in my own shooting. I grip a Glock pretty high and my thumb occasionally depresses the slide release, so it doesn't always lock back on the last round. I'll catch myself hearing the click and evaluating how the sight picture was during and after the "shot" breaking as though it was dry pointed at my wall, rather than immediately reloading or rectifying the solution. I believe that this drill(and drills like it) will help break that habit.

**LOKNLOD** · 05-21-10, 14:25

Originally Posted by thopkins22

You get to practice a draw, three trigger pulls, three malfunction drills, and three speed reloads.

You can practice them all separately if you like. But if you dry fire a lot like I do, it's nice to be able to integrate them all into one fluid drill.

I think it's especially beneficial for a Glock/M&P type action, so you can string a series of useful manipulations together, versus the "click - rack slide - click - rack slide" rhythm it feels like I build.

Falla's speed was impressive

but running through that drill for a while at half-speed very deliberately and precisely probably wouldn't hurt me at all before trying to speed it up....

**Surf** · 05-25-10, 03:47

Originally Posted by thopkins22

It's pretty well explained in the video. It's not meant to say, "you're likely to encounter three magazines with one round each and that round will be a dud, so we need to practice this."

You get to practice a draw, three trigger pulls, three malfunction drills, and three speed reloads.

You can practice them all separately if you like. But if you dry fire a lot like I do, it's nice to be able to integrate them all into one fluid drill.

And honestly one of the drawbacks to a lot of dry fire practice without incorporating malfunction drills became clear to me the other day in my own shooting. I grip a Glock pretty high and my thumb occasionally depresses the slide release, so it doesn't always lock back on the last round. I'll catch myself hearing the click and evaluating how the sight picture was during and after the "shot" breaking as though it was dry pointed at my wall, rather than immediately reloading or rectifying the solution. I believe that this drill(and drills like it) will help break that habit.

brickbd, this is exactly the point. If you have the opportunity to dry fire, we should do so. Also by incorporating a sequence such as this will also work on our ability to become more fluid in our manipulations. If you wish to work them as a singular dry drill, no harm. But trust me when I say that stringing dry manipulations together has great benefit in our analytical skills and solution thought process.

I really like this drill and since seeing Jason Falla running the drill I have adopted it. I however run my own variance which suits my actual style as a right hander. I also use dummy rounds for the drill. I tend to roll the weapon ejection port canted downward in a "roll", manner and I use a much sharper "tap" action on the mag, then I go to an overhand rack. It does take more time than doing it the manner in which can be seen in the video, but that is how I like to perform a true tap, roll, rack. I will also add that when I do a thumb and forefinger slingshot, with the ejection port up, I have induced some issues where the spent dummy round has hung up in during the ejection, even flipping the dummy round backwards and the new round and slide slammed the dummy round into the chamber backwards. I needed to ram the barrel from the muzzle end with a pencil to get out the wedged round. Which is why I like to roll ejection port down. When done well, with an overhand and port down which eliminates potential issues no matter how slight, I can make the time with reasonable consistency, but it takes some very good concentration. I am still practicing however and I do find this to be a beneficial drill. Good job Jason!