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Anything is possible I suppose. It is my understanding that the lower half of the mounts that attaches to the rail are the same. The difference is in the milling of the ring portion that actually pivots as this is where the 3T or 3S etching is located. I honestly think the Magnifier mount is good to go. Using the distance between the BIUS and the bottom of the magnifier as a height reference, the chart's magnifier and my magnifier appear to be the same.
I made a better picture to show the inconsistencies. This time I moved the optic forward as pictured in the chart and I also flipped the RDS mount around to put the throw lever on the other side and out of view as there are no inconsistencies there.
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OK...I'm REALLY not trying to be difficult but...
Why did you buy the HK-416 mount? Are you running an HK? I do agree with you that the 3S SHOULD give you the same alignment that is shown on their website but if is not working out and the thing is still new then I would think that LaRue would be able to help you out with getting an LT-660 (that should solve your alignment problem). Did you just buy both optics or are you upgrading with the 3xMag? If both sets were new, I would ask them if you could send both back and start over, just to be sure and be finished! I really think they would be very helpful as their customer service policy is GREAT!!
Also, they say that the LT-660HK wil not work "properly" with standard DI uppers! My thought would be that, with the height discrepancy as big as it is even with a 3S, that an LT-660 would center you up.
Sparky
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Last edited by Sparky5019; 05-23-10 at 16:27.
"An opinion solicited does not equal one freely voiced," Al Swearengen, Deadwood 1877.
It's one thing if they did advertise something that doesn't meet your expectations as advertised, but they also advise against ordering the HK model for regular ARs.
That is the chart when purchasing the optic only. They don't advise against it because it's not compatible with the rifle or the magnifier, they are just making it clear that it's not compatible with the height of standard AR iron's if you are looking for a proper lower 1/3 co-witness.
If someone can point out the difference between an HK's upper receiver rail and an AR's upper receiver rail that is causing this misalignment and I'll gladly shut up and apologize to Larue Tactical for my stupidity but there is no difference that I am aware of. As far as I can tell the rifle in Larue's Chart is one of their stealth uppers....not a piston driven or HK rifle and the short magnifier mount and the medium optic mount line up.
I'm not trying to be snarky but whether or not I have and HK or an AR is irrelevant imo. I wanted an absolute co-witness. The medium optic mount provides that. Then I wanted the magnifier and the shorty magnifier is advertised as being compatible with the medium optic mount albeit "slightly" high. My magnifier is definitely not "slightly" high when compared to LT's Chart.
Is it just me? Have I gone full-retard?
Last edited by Iraq Ninja; 05-23-10 at 16:54.
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Oh yeah, look at that. Nice catch.
Perhaps there is some chicanery afoot.![]()
Last edited by Bronco; 05-23-10 at 20:02.
SkyPig,
OK, all I was asking was why you bought a lower mount if you did not have a piston gun...you answered that question. You are correct in that a rail is a rail when you are talking about linear alignment. I agree that the graphic may have had problems and it was my thought upon close examination as well. I will say that on my LT-660 you can see light under the mount if you are just below level with it even though it is securely mounted to the rail!
I understand your frustration and just was wondering why you had chosen that combo...absolute co-witness is fine; I had figured that with no indicated "need" of a shorter mount that you might spare yourself the difficulty and just go with the 3T and the LT-660.
I really hope you get what you are looking for as LaRue makes great gear and has excellent customer service!
Sparky
"An opinion solicited does not equal one freely voiced," Al Swearengen, Deadwood 1877.
In hindsight I wish I had said screw absolute co-witness.Sorry for getting uppity.
I'm thinking I'm pretty much screwed here. I have had the aimpoint micro and mount for a few months now and have put rounds through the rifle with the optic attached. I won't be holding my breath for LT to tell me to send it all back in exchange for tall mounts. I would however hope that they would swap the magnifier mount out for a tall one and I can just buy the tall H-1 mount.
Anyone in the market for an Aimpoint Micro HK mount minus the Aimpoint?
I'm also tossing around the idea of having a buddy at work make me a spacer of sorts to raise the optic to where I need it. We don't have a full CNC shop but an tin-bender on helos can come up with some pretty wild stuff in a pinch.
Well, if anything I at least hope LT will go back and either modify the graphic, because I do feel it's misleading, or make their own spacer so it works as well for the micro as it does for the traditional Aimoint optics.
Thanks All I'll update this when I reach a conclusion with LT.
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