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  1. #1161
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    Agreed.
    Independent Field Testing/R & D

    Better to die for something than live for nothing

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    Quote Originally Posted by C4IGrant View Post
    Their LE line is not Hammer Forged. Their none LE line uses the DD Hammer Forged barrel (which is not HPT).


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    Not intending to hijack the Spikes thread, but this seems the appropriate point for a single follow up question. Let's say I buy a DD govt profile 16" CHF CL barrel, does that mean it is not HPT either?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Iraqgunz View Post
    I have said this probably about 200 times on this site alone. If you purchase an AR/AK/M14, etc... then it should be a SHTF fighting gun first. Everything else is secondary.
    My first 2 AR-15s were high power guns, b/c my SHTF rifle then was an M1A. That has changed since 10 years ago as I have gained more confidence in the AR platform, although I still like to have M1As around.

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    Quote Originally Posted by 500grains View Post
    Not intending to hijack the Spikes thread, but this seems the appropriate point for a single follow up question. Let's say I buy a DD govt profile 16" CHF CL barrel, does that mean it is not HPT either?
    This is a great question! From my understanding, if you buy simply the barrels from DD, they're only MPI'd and not HPT'd. However, all of their rifles and upper receiver groups are both.

    Somebody please correct me if I'm wrong! Thanks.

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    Quote Originally Posted by 500grains View Post
    Not intending to hijack the Spikes thread, but this seems the appropriate point for a single follow up question. Let's say I buy a DD govt profile 16" CHF CL barrel, does that mean it is not HPT either?

    Correct.



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    Quote Originally Posted by justin_247 View Post
    This is a great question! From my understanding, if you buy simply the barrels from DD, they're only MPI'd and not HPT'd. However, all of their rifles and upper receiver groups are both.

    Somebody please correct me if I'm wrong! Thanks.
    It does state (on their website) that the barrels are HPT for uppers, but not complete rifles. So IMHO, I would guestimate that neither are HPT (I could be wrong).


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    I would make the HTP assumption just the opposite. If the barrels for the uppers are HTP tested, it would follow that the complete rifle barrels are also, since they would all be just being drawn from the same stock.

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    From the DD web site:

    DDM4 Complete Upper Receiver Group
    Overview Details Photos Reviews Related
    Retail Price: $998.00
    Your Price: $998.00
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    In Stock: Yes
    Quantity:


    Description
    Daniel Defense manufactures the highest quality complete AR15 upper receivers on the market today! Every Daniel Defense upper is painstakingly hand assembled, quality assurance tested, and test fired to ensure that the highest quality product makes it to the hands of our customers.

    The Daniel Defense DDM4 complete upper receiver groups come complete with bolt carrier group and charging handle, 16″ Cold Hammer Forged Barrel, A1.5 Fixed Rear Sight, Omega X 12.0 FSP Rail System, and Daniel Defense Vertical Grip.

    Specifications
    Upper Receiver: A4 Upper Receiver with M4 Feed Ramps
    Barrel Characteristics: 16″ Cold Hammer Forged, 5.56 NATO Chamber, 1:7 Twist, Chrome Lined, Mil Spec Heavy Phosphate Coated, HP and MPI tested
    Complete Upper Weight: 4 lbs 8 ozs
    Bolt Carrier Group: F/A BCG, HP and MPI Tested, Shot Peened Bolt, Extractor Booster, Properly Staked Gas Key
    Flash Hider: A2 Bird Cage Flash Hider
    Sights: A1.5 Fixed Rear Sight; F Marked Front Sight Base
    Rail System: Omega X 12.0 FSP
    Vertical Grip: Daniel Defense Vertical Grip
    Last edited by DWood; 06-24-10 at 11:41.

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    Quote Originally Posted by DWood View Post
    From the DD web site:

    DDM4 Complete Upper Receiver Group
    Overview Details Photos Reviews Related
    Retail Price: $998.00
    Your Price: $998.00
    You Save: n/a
    In Stock: Yes
    Quantity:


    Description
    Daniel Defense manufactures the highest quality complete AR15 upper receivers on the market today! Every Daniel Defense upper is painstakingly hand assembled, quality assurance tested, and test fired to ensure that the highest quality product makes it to the hands of our customers.

    The Daniel Defense DDM4 complete upper receiver groups come complete with bolt carrier group and charging handle, 16″ Cold Hammer Forged Barrel, A1.5 Fixed Rear Sight, Omega X 12.0 FSP Rail System, and Daniel Defense Vertical Grip.

    Specifications
    Upper Receiver: A4 Upper Receiver with M4 Feed Ramps
    Barrel Characteristics: 16″ Cold Hammer Forged, 5.56 NATO Chamber, 1:7 Twist, Chrome Lined, Mil Spec Heavy Phosphate Coated, HP and MPI tested
    Complete Upper Weight: 4 lbs 8 ozs
    Bolt Carrier Group: F/A BCG, HP and MPI Tested, Shot Peened Bolt, Extractor Booster, Properly Staked Gas Key
    Flash Hider: A2 Bird Cage Flash Hider
    Sights: A1.5 Fixed Rear Sight; F Marked Front Sight Base
    Rail System: Omega X 12.0 FSP
    Vertical Grip: Daniel Defense Vertical Grip

    Their rifles and barrels do NOT say that though.

    http://www.danieldefense.com/?page=s...product_id=141

    http://www.danieldefense.com/?page=s...product_id=212


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    Last edited by C4IGrant; 06-24-10 at 11:56.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Stg1swret View Post
    I would make the HTP assumption just the opposite. If the barrels for the uppers are HTP tested, it would follow that the complete rifle barrels are also, since they would all be just being drawn from the same stock.
    One would think, but it is not listed as such.

    When companies go through all the trouble to HPT and MP, they will list it EVERYWHERE.


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