lucid hd7

[will73]

I purchased this optic about a month ago and so far it function perfectly. the glass is very clear and for close combat rifle drills i have not noticed any blind spots in my field of view to speak of. The features i like the best are the sharp recticle patterns, the quality glass, and the common use battery. I take a weekly tactical rifle class and have put about 1500 rounds through the gun( bushmaster m4 heavy barrel) and have bumped the sight numerous times, has not lost zero yet. The only downsides i have found is a little heavy but mostly i thinkthis is my configuration more than anything and the lower third co-witness that i had to get use to but now like alot. I have many friends and family in the military that believe the eotech and aimpoits are over priced and i dont have any of these to compare to but so far i would say this could be the answer.

[ryanm]

I wouldn't call aimpoint and eotech overpriced. Everyone I know that was issued one or the other was usually pretty happy with either option. I'd rather know the optic I've been issued is the best possible solution rather than the cheapest. For my own gear, I follow the same line of thought depending on the purpose for each rifle. I own several instances of Eotech and Aimpoint optics, both are excellent offerings. Anything not battle tested or battle proven I usually relegate to my tactical .22s.

[MarshallDodge]

I have many friends and family in the military that believe the eotech and aimpoits are over priced and i dont have any of these to compare to but so far i would say this could be the answer.

Well time will tell won't it?

Most of these "same as an Aimpoint for less" always disappoint me in the brightness department. They are typically half as bright and the battery life sucks.

[Alaskapopo]

I purchased this optic about a month ago and so far it function perfectly. the glass is very clear and for close combat rifle drills i have not noticed any blind spots in my field of view to speak of. The features i like the best are the sharp recticle patterns, the quality glass, and the common use battery. I take a weekly tactical rifle class and have put about 1500 rounds through the gun( bushmaster m4 heavy barrel) and have bumped the sight numerous times, has not lost zero yet. The only downsides i have found is a little heavy but mostly i thinkthis is my configuration more than anything and the lower third co-witness that i had to get use to but now like alot. I have many friends and family in the military that believe the eotech and aimpoits are over priced and i dont have any of these to compare to but so far i would say this could be the answer.

Again you get what you pay for. Aimpoints and Eotechs are not over priced. As you go up in price quality goes up and features and the optics ability goes up. Cheap scopes are cheap for a reason. I looked up the scope you talk of and it looks like a Airsoft quality optic.
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[variablebinary]

I'll stick with my overpriced Eotech and Aimpoints

[BudMan5]

The MadOgre of Crusader Weapoinry reviewed the Lucid HD7 and really liked it. he has video reviews on WeTheArmed:

The Lucid HD7 Red Dot Optic. I've pretty much completed my evaluation of this weapon sight. Thumbs Up. In a nut shell, the HD7 is Strong, Clear, and Accurate. It's held zero, it's handled recoil and has done everything that it should with no misbehavior. Quiet honestly, it trumps everything else out there in its class... and if you are wanting a new red dot optic and you can't afford that AimPoint or EoTech – this unit is a great choice. The HD7's two major competitors are the Vortex Strikefire, which I really really wanted to like... they are about 150 bucks, but they have some issues that just have not been sorted out. Such as the battery connections which lead to the red dot failing under recoil. Then there is the Bushnell Trophy MP for 200 bucks.... which is a good unit. However it does not have an auto shut off to conserve battery life and it doesn't have an auto-adjust for brightness. The HD7 does. Videos and Discussion of the HD7 can be found on WeTheArmed.

[davey]

Riverton, Wyoming (where these are being imported) is relatively local to me. They've put quite a few of these sights on LE carbines. General comments locally are also quite favorable. If you can stand it, there are several good threads discussing them on arfcom. Try the Rocky mountains local forum for one.

[TOMTOM]

It looks like a cross of the Bushnell Trophy 1x32 (ACOG shaped one), and the Vortex Strikefire (because of the 2x screw adapter). Its got what looks like those cheap Chinese crap mounts.

That said, i highly doubt its a replacement for the aimpoints and eotechs.

the primary Arms m4 style red dot does the same exact thing, with the same exact reticule options (another thing to be wary of) for way less than the $229 retail price.

[davey]

That said, i highly doubt its a replacement for the aimpoints and eotechs.

LOLZ! All the Lucid needs to do is stay lit and not eat batteries in order to be better than an Eotech. Seriously, this may be the sleeper of the year... or it may be another wanna be. Just keep an open mind.

[tirod]

I find it consistently disillusioning that when top tier optics users rate less pricey versions, they denigrate the product rather than say exactly why their expensive issue version is good at all.

There's plenty of info coming out of SWAsia to understand that Aimpoints, ACOG's, Eotechs, etc can and do fail under severe use. Most civilian users stateside, not being in the loop, are clueless about it. This isn't to say they are junk, but assuming a first line optic to be malfunction free shooting a few rounds a week and then keeping it stored 24/7 in a climate controlled closet isn't severe duty.

That other optics can serve the casual market just as well is looked down on as being "Airsoft" quality or worse. The attitude smacks of elitism, as if owning a high priced merchandise somehow equates to being able to actually use it more effectively than some Joe Blow.

As for the Lucid having cheap crap Chinese mounts, the comment invites a response that the observer doesn't know what they are looking at. The mount is unitized with the scope, which means only one set of clamp nuts, not two, plus no rings screws to fail in operation. The optic was designed to specifically fit the AR and co-witness in the most recommended position. It does that without extra loose nuts, bolts, screws, or problematic quick release levers, all of which contribute to a higher risk of failure. It co-witnesses to allow immediate use of sights, which the better optics also do.

While you can buy cheaper optics - Academy has the Millet RD00006 on sale today for $59 - it doesn't come with the appropriate height riser to work correctly. Add the costs of a mount and it's not competitive.

In regards to the so-called construction of expensive optics, note the high priced ones are under government contract first - discounting to the general public won't happen. Secondly, the price point at $600 is pretty steep for what you get - a couple of coated lenses, minor magnification if any, and a battery operated LED. It's less engineering than buying a monocular with an integrated flashlight. Most shooters won't buy a pair of binoculars for that kind of money - what's so incredibly better that a red dot would be that expensive with less than 1/3 the lenses and plain Jane collimation?

Think about it - it's not that complicated, there's no prisms, just lenses to look thru and a reflected light pattern to see. Not even fine wire crosshairs or an erector mechanism. Others might have that, it's old school tech, and the guns they are attached to do 2MOA as standard.

It's kind of sad to then state that a cheap chinese clone of an Aimpoint would then be better, with more mounts, screws, and an even lower price than the Lucid. At least the Lucid has it's own feature set, runs on an AAA, not a high priced lithium, and gets decent effective life from the battery, along with an auto off feature. Of the reviews I've read here and on weaponsevolution, the users were generally pleased with it. They don't plan on making it a backup optic on a .22, they plan on running thousands of rounds in it to find out what's up. That information will have far more impact than the smirks of those who simply can't be seen with anything less than perfect merchandise.