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Thread: 16k rounds of Wolf + no cleaning = ???

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    Quote Originally Posted by RetreatHell View Post
    I think everyone should murder that imaginary son of a bitch!
    I'm prone to overdo things: once I got done with him, I hit his wife so hard her driver's license got a black eye. Still looking for his dog....
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    Quote Originally Posted by Belmont31R View Post
    If you leave baked on carbon on steel it will often times cause pitting on the surface. Quib has a picture of a bolt that was baked on with carbon, and after cleaning the bolt was pitted to hell.


    I think the carbon absorbs moisture, and moisture sitting on steel can do that.
    No, it was the fact the lube was burned-off of the boilt tail by high temp.

    Lube over carbon means no pitting.
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    Quote Originally Posted by RetreatHell View Post
    I stabbed my imaginary arms room Sergeant in the face and killed his ass around 1 year ago, and proceeded to run my carbines dirty and wet.

    Really helped relieve the stress that built up over several years, and countless hours, of sticking thousands of Q-tips in every nook and cranny of the rifle/carbine until it came out white

    I think everyone should murder that imaginary son of a bitch!
    Totally agree....wet and dirty to the 3-4K mark, with both pistols and ARs for me....it was the parade ground, white glove surprise inspection BS...to the max.
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    Quote Originally Posted by JSantoro View Post
    I'm prone to overdo things: once I got done with him, I hit his wife so hard her driver's license got a black eye. Still looking for his dog....
    Hell yeah, man! "Overkill" is something that the Corps taught me that'll always stay with me until I take a dirt nap... I'm a BIG fan of overkill!
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    Could have atleast given it a courtesy wipe off with a rag every now and then. That is simply abuse.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Xenogy View Post
    Could have atleast given it a courtesy wipe off with a rag every now and then. That is simply abuse.
    this could be so dirty...

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    Quote Originally Posted by polymorpheous View Post
    this could be so dirty...
    Get you're mind out of the gutter, you're blocking my snorkel.

    On a serious note, it doesn't matter how bad off your situation is, there is always something around to wipe down the BCG. So the "torture test" is almost worthless. It's more interesting to see torture tests where atleast some kind of minimalist care is taken.

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    ^^

    Like the Pat Rogers ''I'm going to not clean a BCM for like 28,000 rounds'' test?

    Would that be better than a minimalist torture test?

    I want to read about when a catastrophic malfunction on one happens.

    What was the weapon subjected to, maintenance or lack thereof, ammo usage, firing schedule, etc.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Xenogy View Post
    On a serious note, it doesn't matter how bad off your situation is, there is always something around to wipe down the BCG. So the "torture test" is almost worthless. It's more interesting to see torture tests where atleast some kind of minimalist care is taken.
    So, scientifically, based on your first sentence, your assertion is that system endurance is wholly dependent upon human behavior, and not on engineering, proper design, and materials. Based on your last one, your assertion is that having a control group or condition doesn't impact the efficacy of a test procedure, i.e., help to highlight the sort of information one is hoping to gather from a test.

    Both are wholly wrong, not the least of which is because your meric for efficacy is "interesting." Tests don't generally list "interesting" as one of the goals or a desired endstate. In fact, they never do. That's a condition that's independent of process, procedure or subject. You wanna test for emotion, quit your job immediately prior to telling your wife "I gona be an Ulimate Fighting Champion derp derp derp!" Record the results.

    Continuing to lube WAS the minimalist care. Or, you could introduce a new test, in which minimalist care beyond lube was taken, for the purposes of showing what that care condition does in comparison to the one established here in regard to breakage or failures.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Xenogy View Post
    Get you're mind out of the gutter, you're blocking my snorkel.

    On a serious note, it doesn't matter how bad off your situation is, there is always something around to wipe down the BCG. So the "torture test" is almost worthless. It's more interesting to see torture tests where atleast some kind of minimalist care is taken.
    Then you can consider Pat Roger's T&E weapons as an actual torture test. He only requires the addition of lube. My T&E BCM middy had 14K on it prior to me shooting an additional 1400 rounds of Wolf through it. The BCG looked like dried axle grease. I only lubed it once on TD-1, drenching it with Slip EWL and it ran like a champ for 3 days. He is trying to take the weapons to their failure point to give feed back to the manufacturers.
    Last edited by RogerinTPA; 06-12-10 at 09:51.
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