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Thread: 16k rounds of Wolf + no cleaning = ???

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    Yea, I'd like to see the after pics of the rifle after it was cleaned also. See if there was any permanent damage from not cleaning the rifle after 16k of wolf.

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    I don't see why there would be any permanent damage from using Wolf. The stuff's fine for range use and isn't as horrid as some people make it out to be if your rifle can cycle it.
    Last edited by opmike; 06-09-10 at 22:39.
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    i hate to think of the pitting under all that crap. ack.

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    Quote Originally Posted by outrider627 View Post
    Not an experiment I'd do with my gun.
    Call me crazy but I was actually thinking about doing this the other day, running it until I had a failure of some sort, then again it's not like I'm constantly in classes like Pat Rogers so it might be a mute point.
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    Quote Originally Posted by opmike View Post
    I don't see why there would be any permanent damage from using Wolf. The stuff's fine for range use and isn't as horrid as some people make it out to be if your rifle can cycle it.


    If you leave baked on carbon on steel it will often times cause pitting on the surface. Quib has a picture of a bolt that was baked on with carbon, and after cleaning the bolt was pitted to hell.


    I think the carbon absorbs moisture, and moisture sitting on steel can do that.

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    thanks for sharing. never seen an AR that dirty. wow!

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    Having shot a few K of wolf, I'm having a hard time believing there was NO cleaning of any kind performed during the test. Mine ran like a top through 1700 rds of Wolf without cleaning the chamber, and the failure was a stuck casing. It's a well known fact that steel cases don't expand to seal the chamber like brass cases do, there had to be some chamber fowling during this test. Unless the chamber of this rifle was sized for a .308, there had to be a stuck case somewhere along the line before hitting the 16K mark.

    If the Militec somehow performed a freak of nature type of protection of the chamber preventing the stuck case syndrome, then it's a hell of a selling point for the product.

    Either way, it's going to take more than a case study of 1 to prove the point.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Artos View Post
    this is why all ar's were created equal...just sayin.
    LOL.


    No.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Puffy93 View Post
    Why would anyone let a gun get that dirty?
    Torture tests.

    Pat Rogers has AT LEAST one gun that's in excess of 28k rounds with no cleaning, and he's got something like 6-10 guns for T&E at any given time. With prior notice, he lets students use them, so it's not just him and his staff running up those round-counts.

    Correct lube and application are an absolute necessity. Cleaning for no other reason than to clean is a personal choice.
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    LOL! That's one crudded up weapon!!

    ...and a 7.5" barrel is not long enough to frag XM193!
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