TA33G-H Review.

**paulosantos** · 06-12-10, 19:49

INTRODUCTION:
This is my review of the TA33G-H ACOG (Green Horseshoe Reticle.).

RANGE: 0-600 Yards
IDEAL RANGE: 25-300 Yards.

The TA33G-H is ideal for:
1. LE Perimeter Rifle.
2. Military Rifle.
3. Hunting Rifle.
4. SHTF Rifle.

The TA33G-H is not ideal for:
1. CQB/Entry Rifle.
2. Precision/SPR Rifle.

SPECIFICATIONS:
Magnification: 3.0
Objective Size: 30.0
Bullet Drop Compensator: Yes
Length (in): 6.10
Weight (oz): 11.64 w/mount
Illumination source: Fiber Optics & Tritium
Reticle Pattern: Horseshoe
Day Reticle Color: Green
Night Reticle Color: Green
Calibration: 0.223 (M855 w/100 METER zero)
Bindon Aiming Concept: Yes
Eye Relief (in): 1.90
Exit Pupil (mm): 10.00
Field of View (°): 3.70
Field of View @ 100yrds (ft): 19.30
Adjustment @ 100 yds (clicks/in): 1/4 MOA
Tube Size: N/A
Mount: TA60
Mount On/Comes With: TA60
Housing Material: Forged Aluminum

PRO's:
1. Price:
I paid $800 with the TA60 Mount. An Aimpoint M4/M4s costs approximately $750 with a mount. And the Aimpoint 3xMagnifier costs $500-600.

2. Eye Relief:
The eye relief is listed at 1.9", but it is very forgiving. It almost feels like a 2xAimpoint. I've checked from 1"-5" of eye relief and I was still able to see the reticle. This is great for those odd shooting positions.

3. Reticle:
I've been a fan of the Horseshoe type reticles ever since I started shooting EOTechs. This feels like I'm shooting an EOTech with a green reticle. The center dot is 2MOA, which still allows me to shoot MOA. The Green color is very easy to pick up, even against green targets such as grass and trees. The only time I wouldn't recommend the green reticle is if you plan on using a NV Device. The BDC reticle is calibrated using the M855 ammo zeroed at 100 METERS. For shooting man sized targets, the BDC will work with most .223 ammo if you zero the center dot at 100 YARDS.

4. BAC:
The BAC works very well and it is very fast. When I had the TA31DOC, I noticed a POI shift at close range, which is pretty common. With the TA33, I haven't noticed any POI shift at all.

5. Weight:
The TA33G-H ACOG weighs 11.64oz with the TA60 mount. Here are some comparisons:
TA11: 14oz w/o mount.
TA31: 9.9oz w/o mount.
EOTech XPS: 11.2oz.
EOTech 552: 11.5oz.
Aimpoint M2/M3: 7.1oz w/o mount.
Aimpoint M4/M4s: 9.3oz w/o mount. 11.8oz w/mount.
Aimpoint 3xMagnifier: 7.1oz w/o mount.

CON's:
1. CQB:
Even though the TA33G-H is very fast, especially after you get used to the BAC Concept, it just isn't as fast as an Aimpoint or EOTech. So for pure CQB Work, I'd stick with an Aimpoint or EOTech.

2. Reticle Washout:
While the reticle illumination is perfect for outside or in a well lit room, it just isn't bright enough in a dark room or in a dark room aiming into a bright room. This is a know issue with the ACOG's. For LE use, I'd just transition to a handgun if ever in that type of situation.

CONCLUSION:
I've had my TA33G-H ACOG for a couple of months now and have shot right around 1K rounds through it. For the price, durability, weight, and daytime visible reticle, it is hard to beat the TA33G-H.

**OPPFOR** · 06-12-10, 20:18

Not sure if I missed it but how many rounds down range do you have with this optic?

**paulosantos** · 06-12-10, 20:42

Originally Posted by Glock-Fu

Not sure if I missed it but how many rounds down range do you have with this optic?

Sorry, I thought I put it in there. I shot right around 1K.

**ack495** · 06-12-10, 23:06

Thanks for the review. I have been going back and forth about what optic to get as the best all around option for my patrol/swat rifle. I only have one rifle right now, a 16" CMMG middy upper on a LMT lower. I just started looking look and hard at the 3x ACOG's and thought they might be a good option for both patrol, and with the BAC, to be useful on warrant entries as well. I love the green horseshoe reticle. With limited funds, I can only buy one optic right now. I have decided, after a lot of reading, that my best bet is to go with an Aimpoint M2/3 or micro and add a magnifier(vortex or PA, not an aimpoint) in a Larue FTS mount. The washout of the ACOG's is my main concern as I work mostly nights and I will be in dark rooms using a flashlight frequently on warrants.

BTW, what kind of sling and sling mount you running on that rifle? I have a blackhawk single point bungee sling that I'm kind sick of. Doesn't pull the rifle up high enough for me and the rifle is in way of my knees and crotch. That one do any better?

**Alaskapopo** · 06-13-10, 00:52

[QUOTE=paulosantos;680618]INTRODUCTION:
This is my review of the TA33G-H ACOG (Green Horseshoe Reticle.).

RANGE: 0-600 Yards
IDEAL RANGE: 25-300 Yards.

The TA33G-H is ideal for:
1. LE Perimeter Rifle.
2. Military Rifle.
3. Hunting Rifle.
4. SHTF Rifle.

The TA33G-H is not ideal for:
1. CQB/Entry Rifle.
2. Precision/SPR Rifle.

SPECIFICATIONS:
Magnification: 3.0
Objective Size: 30.0
Bullet Drop Compensator: Yes
Length (in): 6.10
Weight (oz): 11.64 w/mount
Illumination source: Fiber Optics & Tritium
Reticle Pattern: Horseshoe
Day Reticle Color: Green
Night Reticle Color: Green
Calibration: 0.223 (M855 w/100 METER zero)
Bindon Aiming Concept: Yes
Eye Relief (in): 1.90
Exit Pupil (mm): 10.00
Field of View (°): 3.70
Field of View @ 100yrds (ft): 19.30
Adjustment @ 100 yds (clicks/in): 1/4 MOA
Tube Size: N/A
Mount: TA60
Mount On/Comes With: TA60
Housing Material: Forged Aluminum

PRO's:
1. Price:
I paid $800 with the TA60 Mount. An Aimpoint M4/M4s costs approximately $750 with a mount. And the Aimpoint 3xMagnifier costs $500-600.

2. Eye Relief:
The eye relief is listed at 1.9", but it is very forgiving. It almost feels like a 2xAimpoint. I've checked from 1"-5" of eye relief and I was still able to see the reticle. This is great for those odd shooting positions.

3. Reticle:
I've been a fan of the Horseshoe type reticles ever since I started shooting EOTechs. This feels like I'm shooting an EOTech with a green reticle. The center dot is 2MOA, which still allows me to shoot MOA. The Green color is very easy to pick up, even against green targets such as grass and trees. The only time I wouldn't recommend the green reticle is if you plan on using a NV Device. The BDC reticle is calibrated using the M855 ammo zeroed at 100 METERS. For shooting man sized targets, the BDC will work with most .223 ammo if you zero the center dot at 100 YARDS.

4. BAC:
The BAC works very well and it is very fast. When I had the TA31DOC, I noticed a POI shift at close range, which is pretty common. With the TA33, I haven't noticed any POI shift at all.

5. Weight:
The TA33G-H ACOG weighs 11.64oz with the TA60 mount. Here are some comparisons:
TA11: 14oz w/o mount.
TA31: 9.9oz w/o mount.
EOTech XPS: 11.2oz.
EOTech 552: 11.5oz.
Aimpoint M2/M3: 7.1oz w/o mount.
Aimpoint M4/M4s: 9.3oz w/o mount. 11.8oz w/mount.
Aimpoint 3xMagnifier: 7.1oz w/o mount.

CON's:
1. CQB:
Even though the TA33G-H is very fast, especially after you get used to the BAC Concept, it just isn't as fast as an Aimpoint or EOTech. So for pure CQB Work, I'd stick with an Aimpoint or EOTech.

2. Reticle Washout:
While the reticle illumination is perfect for outside or in a well lit room, it just isn't bright enough in a dark room or in a dark room aiming into a bright room. This is a know issue with the ACOG's. For LE use, I'd just transition to a handgun if ever in that type of situation.

CONCLUSION:
I've had my TA33G-H ACOG for a couple of months now and have shot right around 1K rounds through it. For the price, durability, weight, and daytime visible reticle, it is hard to beat the TA33G-H.

Add in a Aimpoint T1 in a off set mount and the CQB concerns go away.
Pat

**paulosantos** · 06-13-10, 05:21

Originally Posted by ack495

Thanks for the review. I have been going back and forth about what optic to get as the best all around option for my patrol/swat rifle. I only have one rifle right now, a 16" CMMG middy upper on a LMT lower. I just started looking look and hard at the 3x ACOG's and thought they might be a good option for both patrol, and with the BAC, to be useful on warrant entries as well. I love the green horseshoe reticle. With limited funds, I can only buy one optic right now. I have decided, after a lot of reading, that my best bet is to go with an Aimpoint M2/3 or micro and add a magnifier(vortex or PA, not an aimpoint) in a Larue FTS mount. The washout of the ACOG's is my main concern as I work mostly nights and I will be in dark rooms using a flashlight frequently on warrants.

BTW, what kind of sling and sling mount you running on that rifle? I have a blackhawk single point bungee sling that I'm kind sick of. Doesn't pull the rifle up high enough for me and the rifle is in way of my knees and crotch. That one do any better?

I am running the Gear Sector GS-2P sling. It goes from 1-2 point. It works very well for me and stays nice and high and tight.

**rob_s** · 06-13-10, 07:54

I think this optic may be a fantastic addition to the 6.8 I'm finishing up for hogs. I am somewhat concerned, however, about picking up the green reticule in the green grass. I'm going to run my red TA33 again when I get it done and give some thought to the green.

**paulosantos** · 06-13-10, 08:17

Originally Posted by rob_s

I think this optic may be a fantastic addition to the 6.8 I'm finishing up for hogs. I am somewhat concerned, however, about picking up the green reticule in the green grass. I'm going to run my red TA33 again when I get it done and give some thought to the green.

I don't think you can go wrong with either color. I suck at reticle pictures, but I'll see tomorrow if I can take one pointing at the grass.

**JSantoro** · 06-13-10, 14:35

Originally Posted by rob_s

I think this optic may be a fantastic addition to the 6.8 I'm finishing up for hogs. I am somewhat concerned, however, about picking up the green reticule in the green grass. I'm going to run my red TA33 again when I get it done and give some thought to the green.

Everything is relative to the specifics of your own eye, of course, but...

Not sure if you've seen the reticle live before or not. That tone of green isn't accurately represented in the graphics Trijicon uses. Way too matte.

Think of blaze orange/international-distress orange, and then think of a color green that's about as garish as that. It clashes with just about any green background you care to think of.