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Thread: O.k., who's getting one?: Magpul AFG-2

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    I really tried to make it work on my carbine handguard, but it just never felt right. The AFG is meant to be used with your arm more extended. With the short carbine handguard it puts you in a very unnatural position. If you really want to give it a go all you need is the AFG2 and one of the long MOE rails to mount it. Two things I happen to have if you want them

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mr. Happy View Post
    The AFG1 was about the same length as the carbine's headshield. If this one is shorter, why would I need a longer handguard? Just trying to understand.

    A longer handguard is better because the thumb break grip the AFG was designed for works best with support hand extended and closer to the muzzle.

    Look at how 3-gunners hold their rifle and you can get a better idea of how the AFG was meant to be used.

    Regarding the AFG2, I recently got one and I really tried to hate. However, in the end it work really well for me. I stopped using a vertical grip a few years back and have been using the thumb break grip since that time. The AFG2 makes using this grip more ergonomic and gives me better muzzle control.
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    I got one and I co-witnessed it with my AFG-1!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mr. Happy View Post
    I'd like to try it on my minimalist Colt 6920. What do I need to get to attach it to the carbine's thick heatshield?
    Quote Originally Posted by djegators View Post
    I agree with the above that the new AFG is a nice improvement over the older. I also agree that a carbine length hand guard is too short to make good use of the AFG (YMMV). In fact, I think a mid length MOE hand guard is a tad short for a AFG, but can be used if desired.
    I agree with gators. I wouldn't bother with the AFG (whether gen1 or gen2) , or frankly a vertical grip at all, on a carbine-length handguard and even a mid-length is a challenge for the AFG but less so for the traditional vert grip.

    Hand-stops, like the excellent samples made by Gear Sector for the picatinny raill system and Mount-n-Slot for direct-attach to tubes & MOE, are much better parts to use in these cases. On the carbine-length MOE I find I need nothing at all as I can use the lip on the bottom front of the handguards to the same effect by hooking my left booger-picker around it. On carbine-length rail systems I add the GS handstop at the same location to use the same way.

    To compare this solution to the FAG, it would be the equivalent of only having the first part of the slope and using the finger-groove insert.

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    I agree with gators. I wouldn't bother with the AFG (whether gen1 or gen2) , or frankly a vertical grip at all, on a carbine-length handguard and even a mid-length is a challenge for the AFG but less so for the traditional vert grip.
    What if you extend the stock all the way out, thus forcing the rifle to stick out further. Would the AFG then be capable of being used efficiently on a carbine hand gaurd?

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    On second thought...

    I'm surprised this thread is still going.

    As it turns out, I tried and subsequently went with the La Rue handstops. These work much better for me than the AFG, even though I became used to handling it. I like how you can vary the distance between handstops depending on hand size, grip style, etc.

    It also helps that they're polymer, giving some weight savings up front where I like it. Mine are kept in place by the XTM panels I had on the handguard (DD Lite 9.0") to begin with. Nice product, very simple and effective, and they really lock your hand in nicely.

    Pat

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    Quote Originally Posted by kal View Post
    What if you extend the stock all the way out, thus forcing the rifle to stick out further. Would the AFG then be capable of being used efficiently on a carbine hand gaurd?
    Maybe, but many people already do that even with the long handguards. I just took a class with a BCM dissipator using iron sights and I had the stock extended for most of the class, and my support hand out by the FSB.

    For those that aren't used to shooting with the stock extended it does funny things to the geometry of your strong hand as well as your head placement in relation to the sights/optic which may need to be relearned.

    Is there some shortcoming to the carbine-length handguard that people are finding needs addressed that they think the AFG is going to solve? I'd be far more inclined to go with MOE handguards and a MOE vertical grip cut down to minimum size.

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    Love It

    I have had mine for a couple of months and love the thing. I had a vertical forward grip that is lost in my closet somewhere now and i don't care if i ever find it again. Everybody is different and everyone has a different set up. For me personally i find that it helps me shoot better. The results are very linear and the paper does not lie. It is only a 37$ gamble. Not the end of the world if you don't like it. There is a certain way to use it as demonstrated by Chris and Travis in there DVD's. I think if i had not watched them and bought the grip it would be the piece lost in the closet somewhere.
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    Quote Originally Posted by aklaunch View Post
    There is a certain way to use it as demonstrated by Chris and Travis in there DVD's. I think if i had not watched them and bought the grip it would be the piece lost in the closet somewhere.
    I think this is important. I don't use one, but I understand the "theory" in the "theory-base product" and I understand how they are intended to be used. I CONSTANTLY come across shooters that buy them, God knows why, only to try and make them work like a vertical grip and wind up frustrated. Some even refuse to listen to suggestions that they either alter their style to fit the gear they bought and give it an honest try, or ditch the gear that doesn't fit their shooting style.

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