Page 4 of 4 FirstFirst ... 234
Results 31 to 39 of 39

Thread: water shooting

  1. #31
    Join Date
    Feb 2010
    Posts
    28
    Feedback Score
    0
    Quote Originally Posted by Country DeVil View Post
    I want to see if I can swim across my pool in one breath pop up in the shallow end and shoot a squirrel.
    THAT was hilarious!

    What a visual! Ha!


  2. #32
    Join Date
    Mar 2008
    Location
    Fredericksburg, VA
    Posts
    4,859
    Feedback Score
    7 (100%)
    Quote Originally Posted by Luke_Y View Post
    If you search videos for Over The Beach Testing or OTB Testing, you will find several examples of rifles (mostly pistons) being fired immediately or almost immediately after surfacing.
    Yeah, for testing purposes is one thing....I'm still happy to let somebody else do that!

    Ther was one such incident, several years ago, involving a Marine with an element of 4th Recon Bn tooling around up in Alaska. He forgot to drain, and popped off a round. Not pretty.
    Contractor scum, AAV

  3. #33
    Join Date
    Mar 2009
    Location
    Stafford, Virginia
    Posts
    1,169
    Feedback Score
    0
    Quote Originally Posted by Failure2Stop View Post
    Salt water greatly accelerates corrosion, especially in military weapons that have to endure destructive cleaning processes that remove surface finishes that would normally protect the metal.
    That's part of it but even with new weapons that didn't have time to have the surface finishes cleaned 'properly'

    We still had issues with areas that the user couldn't access legally:

    Most of the issues centered around a white crusty oxidation (?) and some rust.

    Slave pins in the lower receivers, the detents/springs holding the takedown pins in, the inner workings of the rear sights.......basically every piece of metal that wasn't aluminum (some of the aluminum got the white crusty crap also).

    While these things are no brainers to most here, allowing an Infantry company to completely take apart the rifle is a no-go.

  4. #34
    Join Date
    May 2008
    Posts
    395
    Feedback Score
    13 (100%)
    Quote Originally Posted by Luke_Y View Post
    If you search videos for Over The Beach Testing or OTB Testing, you will find several examples of rifles (mostly pistons) being fired immediately or almost immediately after surfacing. Some (HK) even while basically still submerged. You wont see them doing what JSantoro discussed. It's cool but, I wouldn't want those barrels (post testing) on my weapon...
    Quote Originally Posted by JSantoro View Post
    Yeah, for testing purposes is one thing....I'm still happy to let somebody else do that!

    Ther was one such incident, several years ago, involving a Marine with an element of 4th Recon Bn tooling around up in Alaska. He forgot to drain, and popped off a round. Not pretty.
    Yes, I certainly wasn't advocating. Just pointing out the discrepancy in what someone may see, and the likely reality.
    My fear is that ahh, the whole island will ahh, become so overly populated, that it will tip over and ahh, and capsize...
    Hank Johnson (D) GA YouTube

  5. #35
    Join Date
    Jan 2008
    Location
    Merritt, North Carlolina
    Posts
    240
    Feedback Score
    0

    Water in the bbl

    Quote Originally Posted by JSantoro View Post
    What they use is a technique or method, not a particular type of gear.

    You come out of the water, pull the charging handle to the rear so that the bolt clears the chamber and tip the barrel downward so that you introduce a clear opening so that air can flow in and water flows out (down). Magazines with holes in the baseplates are helpful, but with or without them, cracking open the bolt a touch is the surest way to get the water out of the most important portion: the barrel, because water doesn't compress. Might as well have concrete in the bore.

    Just think of a straw in your MacDonald's Happy Meal drink: you seal the top with the tip of your finger, pull the straw up out of the fluid, the fluid in the straw stays there. Remove that finger from the tip, it plummets out.

    Anybody that thinks that folks practice just simply jumping out of the water and shooting has been watching too many Chuck Norris movies, unless the Director's Cut shows the barrel exploding in his face but he kills everybody anyway because he's Chuck f**kingNorris. Maybe, somewhere out there, some bubba-gun-owning half-wit can claim to have done it with no effect. I don't think so, but if that half-wit exists, you either want to hang close to him because he's the luckiest SOB in the world....or get the hell away from him because you're gonna catch shrapnel from whichever harebrained event the Magic 8 Ball randomly comes up with the You're Hosed message.
    This is the way to do it guys. Lower the muzzle and pull back on the charging handle slightly just to open and allow the water to run out, I would only add when you release the charging handle hit your forward assist to make sure the bolt is fully closed. I have run M16's in very heavey rain, streams, etc. As long as you get the water out it will keep on working. First chance you get, clean the weapon as soon as possible, feasable!
    If you want God To smile, Tell him your plans....

    Member, Force Recon Association
    HR 218 Certified
    Former USMC 0311/8654

  6. #36
    Join Date
    Jan 2008
    Location
    Merritt, North Carlolina
    Posts
    240
    Feedback Score
    0

    Cleaning generally

    This may sound crazy, but when I was with 2nd Force Recon, Camp Gieger, after a while training we would take our NEW M16, (we had just switch over from the M3A1 .45 cal., which had hardly had any protective finish left....
    Anyway we would take the 16 into the shower with us and with the hottest water possible, just hit everything. Then we would hang the rifle up and as the water was hot it evaporated pretty fast, then we would clean as maintenance required. The washing got rid of most sand, dust, dirt, etc.
    If you want God To smile, Tell him your plans....

    Member, Force Recon Association
    HR 218 Certified
    Former USMC 0311/8654

  7. #37
    Join Date
    Mar 2009
    Location
    Stafford, Virginia
    Posts
    1,169
    Feedback Score
    0
    Quote Originally Posted by AllAmerican View Post
    Anyway we would take the 16 into the shower with us and with the hottest water possible, just hit everything. Then we would hang the rifle up and as the water was hot it evaporated pretty fast, then we would clean as maintenance required. The washing got rid of most sand, dust, dirt, etc.
    That works, we did that with the 16s in our sniper platoon but.....it won't fly in a Smallboat Company...while the Marines were authorized to wear UDT shorts and black running shorts while we were the walking dead.....running the rifles in saltwater was operationally required....for some reason, back a Horno...the unknowning would not allow hot water to be used because the weapons would rust.....we were able to 'accidently' get a fresh water rinse while we were fresh water rinsing the LRRCs but not to the level that the weapons needed.

    On the Ogden we were able to use the Boatswain's high pressure air hoses...these worked very well.

  8. #38
    Join Date
    Dec 2009
    Posts
    91
    Feedback Score
    0
    Quote Originally Posted by RetreatHell View Post
    Ummm... hello! The SEALs in the movie GI Jane did it, so me thinks it must be true.
    I knew I saw that scene in a movie somewhere!

  9. #39
    Join Date
    Apr 2008
    Posts
    45
    Feedback Score
    0
    Quote Originally Posted by AllAmerican View Post
    This may sound crazy, but when I was with 2nd Force Recon, Camp Gieger, after a while training we would take our NEW M16, (we had just switch over from the M3A1 .45 cal., which had hardly had any protective finish left....
    Anyway we would take the 16 into the shower with us and with the hottest water possible, just hit everything. Then we would hang the rifle up and as the water was hot it evaporated pretty fast, then we would clean as maintenance required. The washing got rid of most sand, dust, dirt, etc.
    Makes sense to me - hot, soapy water is one of the best things to clean a black powder firearm with, and BP is notoriously corrosive. Of course you want to dry and lube everything ASAP, but especially around salt water it makes sense to me. I recently bought an M16 upper that have the worst pitting I've ever seen on a barrel, and the FSB has the front sight post rusted into it - I'm not even going to try to turn it out - it's that bad. The rest of the upper is pretty sweet, so it's going to get cut down into a dedicated .22LR - I'll take pics though next chance I get. It looks like it was stored barrel down in the bilge of a Thai pirate ship for 20 years...

Page 4 of 4 FirstFirst ... 234

Bookmarks

Posting Permissions

  • You may not post new threads
  • You may not post replies
  • You may not post attachments
  • You may not edit your posts
  •