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    I will ask the same basic question that I asked in the other thread: What do you guys really expect from Colt?

    Let's be realistic. The only things that I can see lacking from their lineup is an LE A4 model, and a flat-top pencil barrel model. It would be cool if they offered some different SOPMOD configurations, but most people don't want a mil. SOPMOD configuration, so the wouldn't sell.

    If they configure with stock/rail A people will bitch, if they configure with stock/rail B people will bitch. They are a high production facility, not a custom shop or boutique retailer.

    Once again, Colt will never offer a lineup of 1911s like Kimber and never offer the plethora of M4 configurations that BCM does. They make arguably the best base 1911 (S70 re-issue, yeah they listened!) and almost unarguably the most tested and proven base M4 available.

    I think Colt is scrambling with this "tactical" nonsense because they don't understand what the hell you people want.

    So what do you want?

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    Military Contract

    Seems like previous posts are correct. They're perhaps too focused on the military contracts (and law enforcement to a lesser extent) to devote too much attention to civilians. Maybe they'll devote more to civilian purchases if all the branches adopt a next gen type rifle and colt loses the m4 family contract? But since the powers that be are always slow in adopting new things, I doubt that will happen anytime soon. Just an idea.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Oreaopla View Post
    Seems like previous posts are correct. They're perhaps too focused on the military contracts (and law enforcement to a lesser extent) to devote too much attention to civilians. Maybe they'll devote more to civilian purchases if all the branches adopt a next gen type rifle and colt loses the m4 family contract? But since the powers that be are always slow in adopting new things, I doubt that will happen anytime soon. Just an idea.
    I'll ask it again: What do you want Colt to do for civilians that they do not already do? All I hear in any Colt thread are these "they don't care about civies, wait till their contract runs out and they'll see what's what" responses. What are they not doing for civies now that you want?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Goshen606 View Post
    I would hope not. I wish they would go back to making Python revolvers personally.
    At the risk of off-topic thread drift, if I were Colt, I would, in addition to the above:

    1) Bring back their line of small 1911 .380's. With more ladies carrying concealed, they would sell all they could make (and men would like them as well).

    2) Bring back a Detective Special with a spurless hammer, a 0.050 inch taller partridge style front sight, possibly with a tritium insert, and the option of a short, 2-finger "boot" grip.

    3) Offer more variations of their AR's.

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    I want Colt to succeed in this market, and while I follow the sentiments of some here, I don't think that they need to introduce a mid-gas gun to do it. That isn't their thing, and while mid-gas guns are terrific, there is plenty of room in the market for more conventional configurations.

    It wasn't so long ago that we couldn't even get our hands on product, so I am disinclined to protest too loudly today; that said, I do think that the front office needs to reexamine their marketing strategies and fix this embarassing Colt Tactical debacle.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Dunderway View Post
    I'll ask it again: What do you want Colt to do for civilians that they do not already do? All I hear in any Colt thread are these "they don't care about civies, wait till their contract runs out and they'll see what's what" responses. What are they not doing for civies now that you want?
    Me personally? I'd like to eventually purchase a Colt to complement the other rifles I own. I have been specifically interested in a standard carbine or mid-length profile 16" 1 in 7 barrel (non m4 profile) but, unless I'm mistaken, they don't make it. I imagine they may never make it. For me, I suppose it's just the ability to say I own a rifle made by the original military manufacturer. I'm not knocking them in any way. I'm just suggesting that without a huge contract to worry about, they'll have to look to the civilian sector to increase sales. Either that or try to get another contract.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Dunderway View Post
    I will ask the same basic question that I asked in the other thread: What do you guys really expect from Colt?

    Let's be realistic. The only things that I can see lacking from their lineup is an LE A4 model, and a flat-top pencil barrel model. It would be cool if they offered some different SOPMOD configurations, but most people don't want a mil. SOPMOD configuration, so the wouldn't sell.

    If they configure with stock/rail A people will bitch, if they configure with stock/rail B people will bitch. They are a high production facility, not a custom shop or boutique retailer.

    Once again, Colt will never offer a lineup of 1911s like Kimber and never offer the plethora of M4 configurations that BCM does. They make arguably the best base 1911 (S70 re-issue, yeah they listened!) and almost unarguably the most tested and proven base M4 available.

    I think Colt is scrambling with this "tactical" nonsense because they don't understand what the hell you people want.

    So what do you want?
    I want them to either do things like this "tactical" nonsense correctly or not do it at all.

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    Quote Originally Posted by rob_s View Post
    I want them to either do things like this "tactical" nonsense correctly or not do it at all.
    I agree with that. People were making some of these same complaints before Colt-Tactical was even imagined though.

    I wish they would have just upped production/distribution (and hopefully lowered prices) on their current models.
    Last edited by Dunderway; 06-16-10 at 22:34.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Oreaopla View Post
    Me personally? I'd like to eventually purchase a Colt to complement the other rifles I own. I have been specifically interested in a standard carbine or mid-length profile 16" 1 in 7 barrel (non m4 profile) but, unless I'm mistaken, they don't make it. I imagine they may never make it. For me, I suppose it's just the ability to say I own a rifle made by the original military manufacturer. I'm not knocking them in any way. I'm just suggesting that without a huge contract to worry about, they'll have to look to the civilian sector to increase sales. Either that or try to get another contract.
    It might be hard for them to re-tool for a specific configuration like that. I do agree that it would be great if Colt would open up more distribution channels for their LE lines to get to civilians. It would be cool to walk into any shop and see as many LEs as you do MTs.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Dunderway View Post
    It would be cool to walk into any shop and see as many LEs as you do MTs.
    That is already the case. MT's are rare to non-existent at all my local dealers
    Last edited by variablebinary; 06-17-10 at 00:24.
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