Lone Survivor, the movie.

Originally Posted by FromMyColdDeadHand

It's funny, because I feel like the book added all the training/selection stuff to actually make it long enough to be a novel. Sure it helps with the back story, but it's like half the book. The movie, IIRC, doesn't mention it at all- and it's still a pretty long movie.

Not really what I meant, his travels after the fight was over his interactions with the locals......seemed like after the fire fight in the movie it was over......

Originally Posted by HKGuns

Not really what I meant, his travels after the fight was over his interactions with the locals......seemed like after the fire fight in the movie it was over......

To me the book seemed much more interesting with the subtleties of the Afghan culture in general and the specifics of his case. Maybe too hard to convey in 'action movie', or just beyond Markie Mark's acting ability .

Originally Posted by FromMyColdDeadHand

To me the book seemed much more interesting with the subtleties of the Afghan culture in general and the specifics of his case. Maybe too hard to convey in 'action movie', or just beyond Markie Mark's acting ability .

Exactly, on all counts!

Originally Posted by Fjallhrafn

I may be wrong, but I was 99% certain that the Army had programs for enlistees that dropped them onto a fast-track to Ranger Regt or Special Forces.

When the GWOT was in full swing an enlistment option was the "18X Program" where qualified candidates would attend OSUT instead of traditional basic and Infantry AIT, from there they would then go to jump school, SOPC, SFAS, and finally SFQC. IIRC the program has since been closed.

A friend of mine's son enlisted this way and became an 18C.

As for Ranger, IIRC RASP (replaced RIP) is an option for 11B enlistees, then they get a shot at being in the 75th after basic/AIT/jump.

Originally Posted by HighSpeedDreams

BUDS, as it should be, is a selection course. Just ask Dan Bilzerian.

http://sofrep.com/26399/exclusive-da...or-the-record/

Schmuck. I do know one guy who made it through BUDS and airborne, to be dropped in SQT for safety violations. He went to the boat teams and I lost track of him over time.

Originally Posted by ptmccain

One of the best and most realistic recent war movies was: "Generation Kill" made in 2007.

It still had too much of a bias in it. Catch the interviews with the guys from that unit in which they discussed how many of the personnel conflicts (especially among the officers) was overblown or fabricated.

Originally Posted by HighSpeedDreams

BUDS, as it should be, is a selection course. Just ask Dan Bilzerian.

http://sofrep.com/26399/exclusive-da...or-the-record/

Couldn't ****ing hack it. Getting rolled from phase III to beginning of phase II reeks of remedial training before being dropped.

Originally Posted by ptmccain

"Former BUD/S (Basic Underwater Demolition/SEAL) trainee"

says he was: "got admin dropped for no real good reason."


Right.....

When you get dropped just before the end of Third Phase like Bilzerian, there's a damn good reason. You're unsafe, a douche, not a good teammate or all three.

Originally Posted by streck

It still had too much of a bias in it. Catch the interviews with the guys from that unit in which they discussed how many of the personnel conflicts (especially among the officers) was overblown or fabricated.

As I recall, the junior enlisted guys thought it was pretty realistic while the senior enlisted guy thought it was overblown.

I think it's a simple case of where you stand being determined by where you sit - with the junior enlistees on one end the officers on the other and the senior enlistees stuck in the middle.

Originally Posted by krisjon

When you get dropped just before the end of Third Phase like Bilzerian, there's a damn good reason. You're unsafe, a douche, not a good teammate or all three.

My best guess for him would be all three. But I only know what I read and hear and most of that adds up to all three.