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    Body Weight Only Training Program: TacFit

    If you are looking for a well designed body weight only program, this is an excellent program for general physical preparedness (GPP), burning calories, etc. Yes, the marketing lingo at the site is a bit much, but it's being directed mostly at the general public so ignore the sales hype. The Ed Brown "Special Forces" 1911 has a horrible name, but it's still a great gun... This program is sorta like that.
    Regardless, for LEO, Mil, firefighters, and first responders in general, this will make for a productive program and uses bodyweight only exercises.

    It's not going to be a program for those focused specifically on muscle mass and strength per se. nor would I give up my sleds, sandbags, TRX Trainer, etc for it, weights, etc but as a BW only program, it's a good one.

    The TacFit Commando program is a bodyweight-only program designed to get people into top physical condition. That’s not as hard to do as it sounds. However, getting people into top physical condition, maintaining it, and avoiding injuries, over-use syndromes, and over-training syndromes, is another matter altogether. Many programs will achieve the former, and very few will achieve the latter. TacFit Commando is such a program. It’s not the latest greatest program to jump on the “functional fitness” bandwagon by slapping together a bunch of unrelated exercises, it’s a well thought out well designed program that follows many of the core principles I have been writing about for years. Why do most programs fail in the long run? Here’s why:

    They are Linear program designs (lack of Periodization!)

    •Lack de-training/de loading periods

    •Lack of planned progression

    •Lack of specific goals

    •Fail to match training to goals

    •Fail to track specific goals

    Any program that does not incorporate those essential variables, will always fail in the long term, lead to injury, and or a general lack of progress and diminishing returns to effort put in. I’m happy to report, the TacFit Commando program does not suffer from any of the above problems, and approaches those essential variables commendably. This program has been thought through, and incorporates movement patterns and programming that that should yield the results people desire.

    As someone who works with athletes, the general public, and tactical law enforcement (e.g., SWAT, etc) I always appreciate a program that follows what I consider the essential core principles of any good program. Not surprisingly, TacFit has a following with various members of the tactical community as well as others who must be “tactically fit” such as first responders from firemen to law enforcement.

    I also like how the program differentiates between the common over used marketing term “functional fitness” vs. targeted general physical preparedness (GPP) that is not trying to be all things to all people, but a program many can utilize to get into great overall shape.

    This program is for anyone – first responders of all kinds, the general public, etc – who want to use a bodyweight only program to burn calories, greatly improve their strength to bodyweight ratio, build endurance where and when it counts, and avoid over training and injuries in the long run.

    The only group I don’t see this being a good fit, are those who are focused primarily on building muscle mass (e.g., bodybuilders) and those primarily focused on absolute strength, such as power lifters, etc.

    At the same time, I have recommended all strength athletes incorporate some form of GPP (see my vids and blogs on that topic) and there’s no reason TacFit could not be used for that purpose, but some “tweaking” would need to be done to make it fit into the program of bodybuilders and other strength athletes. For info on TacFit: www.commando-fatloss.com
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    Just checking, it is $197 for the program, or did I miss something?


    ETA $137 for the basic edition.

    PJ
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    Which Program?

    Which one did you buy Will? Is it anything compared to militaryathlete.com? I'm all about fitness, but $197 is not a drop in the hat in my budget. I workout 5days a week and I try to keep it work related which is LE. Some of the workouts such as on military athlete are a bit more than what I need but I do them anyway.

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    Quote Originally Posted by duckinthebox View Post
    Which one did you buy Will? Is it anything compared to militaryathlete.com? I'm all about fitness, but $197 is not a drop in the hat in my budget. I workout 5days a week and I try to keep it work related which is LE. Some of the workouts such as on military athlete are a bit more than what I need but I do them anyway.
    Hijack

    Try Sealfit. IIRC the head guys from both MA and sealfit work together on some stuff.

    Sealfit is very, very similar to MA, and its free.

    Also there is a huge document that was floating around this forum that contains a great deal of Crossfit body weight and "stoneage" work outs. If you cant find it, and want it, PM me and I will email it to you.

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    Quote Originally Posted by duckinthebox View Post
    Which one did you buy Will? Is it anything compared to militaryathlete.com?
    Not a BW only program no?

    Quote Originally Posted by duckinthebox View Post
    I'm all about fitness, but $197 is not a drop in the hat in my budget.
    No doubt. I can say for the $$$ they give a ton of supporting stuff, lots of vids, etc. whether it's "worth it" it relative I suppose.

    Quote Originally Posted by duckinthebox View Post
    I workout 5days a week and I try to keep it work related which is LE. Some of the workouts such as on military athlete are a bit more than what I need but I do them anyway.
    If you are getting what you need from that program, stick to it. I think the general design, programming, and focus of the tacfit program is solid. Like any program, will have strengths and weakness.
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    Is this something that average folks can jump into without already being in shape? and do so without constant input from outside sources?

    One of my problems with most of these current-trend of "tactical fitness" programs is that they dump you in as if you're already in great shape, with almost no way of offering solutions for out of shape people to start out. Having body weight only, or limited equipment requirements, is useless if I have to actually go to their facility to get the latest updates or get constant help dumbing down the workouts for my fitness level.

    One of the things that I really liked about Body for Life when I was on it was that it was very scalable, without having to get constant consultations. Yes, their exercises were traditional and therefore not up to snuff for a lot of the new generation, and required some amount of equipment, but frankly it was worth it for us to buy a bench and some weights and have at it just to not have to constantly go looking for support. You could start out slow, and scaling was super easy.

    ETA:
    Just to be clear, I went to the site and I see that they *say* it's scalable, but that's marketing hype, not always reality.
    Last edited by rob_s; 06-24-10 at 08:22.

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    Quote Originally Posted by rob_s View Post
    Is this something that average folks can jump into without already being in shape? and do so without constant input from outside sources?

    One of my problems with most of these current-trend of "tactical fitness" programs is that they dump you in as if you're already in great shape, with almost no way of offering solutions for out of shape people to start out. Having body weight only, or limited equipment requirements, is useless if I have to actually go to their facility to get the latest updates or get constant help dumbing down the workouts for my fitness level.

    One of the things that I really liked about Body for Life when I was on it was that it was very scalable, without having to get constant consultations. Yes, their exercises were traditional and therefore not up to snuff for a lot of the new generation, and required some amount of equipment, but frankly it was worth it for us to buy a bench and some weights and have at it just to not have to constantly go looking for support. You could start out slow, and scaling was super easy.

    ETA:
    Just to be clear, I went to the site and I see that they *say* it's scalable, but that's marketing hype, not always reality.
    IMHO scaling workouts really just comes down to common sense.

    You do what you can, listen to your body, check your ego, and dont be stupid.

    For example if it calls for 100pushups, go until you feel comfortable with.

    I have seen the above approach bring a lot of guys into more complicated programs with very good results because they started out slow and listened to their body. No gym visit required.


    As for explaining the exercises, they are all BW exercises. They can only be so advanced.

    If you dont know what one is, youtube, google or here will probabley be able to clear it up.

    If you want to make sure you are doing it right, hit up a YMCA, IIRC they have workout coaches that ensure proper form etc.


    PJ

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    Quote Originally Posted by rob_s View Post
    Is this something that average folks can jump into without already being in shape? and do so without constant input from outside sources?
    Yes. It's very well structured and laid out for people. I was most impressed with that. I do think the program assumes perhaps at least a minimal fitness level, but it's well structured for people to go at their own pace and ramp up as they proceed.

    Quote Originally Posted by rob_s View Post
    One of my problems with most of these current-trend of "tactical fitness" programs is that they dump you in as if you're already in great shape, with almost no way of offering solutions for out of shape people to start out. Having body weight only, or limited equipment requirements, is useless if I have to actually go to their facility to get the latest updates or get constant help dumbing down the workouts for my fitness level.
    A fair concern and comment.

    Quote Originally Posted by rob_s View Post
    One of the things that I really liked about Body for Life when I was on it was that it was very scalable, without having to get constant consultations. Yes, their exercises were traditional and therefore not up to snuff for a lot of the new generation, and required some amount of equipment, but frankly it was worth it for us to buy a bench and some weights and have at it just to not have to constantly go looking for support. You could start out slow, and scaling was super easy.
    Nothing wrong with BFL. I wrote chapter 11 of his previous book and wrote for his magazine for years. What he did was simply take bodybuilding principles and apply them - with some good marketing - to the general public. BFL was/is a perfectly good starting point for people.

    Quote Originally Posted by rob_s View Post
    ETA:
    Just to be clear, I went to the site and I see that they *say* it's scalable, but that's marketing hype, not always reality.
    Most programs like that tend to have a money back type offer (mine do) for people to get a refund if it's not for them. I didn't look, but I would be very surprised if they didn't offer one.
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    On the soapbox:
    I don't mind paying a trainer, or shelling out some buckage for a piece of equipment, but I do have a little bit of a problem buying a workout 'program'. I have the same problem for spending hundreds of dollars for weight loss and diet programs that, for most people, can be reduced to "eat fewer calories, burn more calories."

    I think with all of the info on the web, with all of the resources at the library (do they even have libraries anymore??), with all of the resources at universities, one can learn how to exercise well and safely for next to nothing. Hell...walk, walk, and walk some more...you WILL get in shape.
    Off the soapbox

    I think this is a good program and has a lot of value, and do agree "is it worth it?" is a relative question.

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    Quote Originally Posted by chuckman View Post
    On the soapbox:
    I don't mind paying a trainer, or shelling out some buckage for a piece of equipment, but I do have a little bit of a problem buying a workout 'program'. I have the same problem for spending hundreds of dollars for weight loss and diet programs that, for most people, can be reduced to "eat fewer calories, burn more calories."

    I think with all of the info on the web, with all of the resources at the library (do they even have libraries anymore??), with all of the resources at universities, one can learn how to exercise well and safely for next to nothing. Hell...walk, walk, and walk some more...you WILL get in shape.
    Off the soapbox

    I think this is a good program and has a lot of value, and do agree "is it worth it?" is a relative question.
    I think you make fair points. If one has the time, interest, etc to do the research, one can set up an effective program for themselves based on free materials. No doubt about that.

    At the same time, there's a huge amount of crap out there to wade through, and minus any base line background of knowledge in the topic, a great way to waste years of time and $$$.

    I'm putting my spam hat on here, so full disclosure there for this example, but if one spends $50 to save years of wasted time and $$$ on worthless stuff because they followed my programs, clearly worth $50.

    Do most people really know how to approach issues, much less understand for example a workout program that is Linear vs correct use Periodization? Or as mentioned above:

    •Lack de-training/de loading periods

    •Lack of planned progression

    •Lack of specific goals

    •Fail to match training to goals

    •Fail to track specific goals

    Not to mention issues of TUT, volume, energy systems, balance, intensity, etc, etc.

    I do think most people fail to realize how much knowledge, science, etc can behind a good program, and I can assure you most programs out there, some very popular programs, fail to address those issues.

    As for me, I have spent my entire life research nutritional supplements for example, and I give most of that knowledge away for free. Point being, one can get a lot of good free info off the net on shooting, and even more really bad info.

    Me, I'd rather pay the $$$ to take a course from Larry Vickers, and others, know I'm getting my advice from the top tier people, and be done with it.
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