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    Looking at one on Grants site, I don't think there would be,But in case the slots on the bottom catch and pull on the bag, I guess you could put a piece of duct tape on it and that should work..
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    Try using a sling*. I don't know about you, but I don't carry a shooting rest and pile of sandbags with me everywhere.



    * as opposed to a carrying strap.

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    Quote Originally Posted by rob_s View Post
    I am also looking for a rest solution. I do not want a sled, but nor do I want a bipod (which I already have and use). For my purposes I need the rifle isolated but stable, and a separate front and rear rest would appear to me to be the best way to do this.

    molon uses the Sinclair Benchrest Windage in his testing but at $370 for the front alone this is more than I want to spend.

    I would like to hear more about what people are using that's moderately priced and is a complete system for front and rear. Specifically something that works well with both free-float rails and standard handguards as well as various collapsible stocks at the rear. I'd like to be into the whole system for around $200.

    The Caldwell Rock pictured above seems like a potential candidate for the front rest and I'd like to hear more from those that have used it and what they used in conjunction with it at the rear.
    first of all, those sleds suuuuuck. too much monkey and not enough football...

    honestly? ask yourself what your intended use is?

    are you doing load development for a beanfield rifle that can shoot into .75moa out to about 500yds? that Rock rest and a bunny rear bag will work just fine.

    are you a bench-rester looking for that last hundredth? that Sinclair Windage rest with hardened steel points on the leg adjusters, clamping cradle, and cordura sand bags with Teflon surfaces filled with chrome silicate heavy sand are just about required.

    for an AR, working inside the limitations of intrinsic accuracy, any steel rest with a sandbag on it will work. the plastic rests need a very heavy bag to be stable but then get tippy. I do carry one in my range box as a spare, though. I even had good results with a .50 cal ammo can or stacked lengths of 4x4 with a sand bag on top. it's not perfect and is not for rapid firing but gets the job done and I can shoot my service rifle as accurate with that as anything else.

    telescoping stocks don't like rear bags. just get a standard bag, sometimes called a brick or a pillow, and support the stock with your fist. vary the tension in your hand for elevation adjustments.

    you can go upmarket on any of these but just realize that you're spending more money because you want to.

    even with a FF rail, try resting the fore end at different distances from the muzzle - it makes a difference.

    and get a pad or something to put under your shooting elbow. you'll thank me...
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    Quote Originally Posted by rob_s View Post
    The Caldwell 7 Rest has piqued my interest as being a possible solution. Portable, foldable, and they show it with an AR on it, albeit a bull-stocked 20"...







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    Cheap anything will perform as such. A high quality BR type rest will be expensive. My experiance with cheap rests and sandbags convinced me that the most stable platform is prone with a loaded bipod and a rear bean bag.

    The Harris bipod is GTG but the Atlas is much better.

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    Quote Originally Posted by rob_s View Post
    re: sliding, if the FF tube is a Troy VTAC instead of a full rail system should there be any issues?
    bench resters use teflon tape so the rifle can move in free recoil. they also have a forward stop to exactly reposition the rifle on it resting point and clamping wings on the front rest cradle to eliminate side to side movement. they try to be as "light" on the gun as possible, eliminating any shooter induced movement, like varying the hold or lean pressure.

    I don't think you want that. first of all, a bench rest rifle will only be shot from rested. any rifle will shoot differently from a rest than in the hands so I tend to "hold" the rifle, supported by the rest. I place my front rest in the same position as my normal grip and I snug up against the stock, with a little rearward pull.

    and second of all, an AR held this way, doesn't move very much. I don't think you need to worry about the rail
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    Quote Originally Posted by ra2bach View Post
    and second of all, an AR held this way, doesn't move very much. I don't think you need to worry about the rail
    My purposes are a little different than most, so I'm looking for something repeatable regardless of movement. I'll shoot you a PM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by rob_s View Post
    I sent an email to Caldwell asking what they suggest. Will share whatever, if any, response I get.
    I got a response from Caldwell. They suggested this one. Any thoughts?

    Fire Control® Full Length Rest


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    Anyone think the Magpul UBR may work better for this than other collapsible stocks?

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    Caldwell Fire Control rest: A bit pricey for my wallet and goals. YMMV.

    Magpul UBR: I have not held one, so I have no opinion on that design per se. From what I have put togerhter, however, the salient points of an appropriate stock would be (1) solid, so maybe collapsible stocks need not apply at all, (2) either a flat section at the toe parallel to the barrel or have the ability to have such a feature temporarily (but firmly) added so tha the rifle can consistently slide back, and then replaced on the rest to a known mark. With that thought in mind, the Ace SOCOM may have the advantage.

    I will be checking out replacement stocks at a big gun show coming up in two weeks.

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