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    Shooting on the move, a real world view (VID)

    Saw this on ARFCOM.

    http://policelink.monster.com/videos...er-vehicle.htm

    It's a pretty useful skill to have, glad we drill it so much.
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    great find. Thanks for posting it.

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    I don't know that I'd call what was displayed "skill" -- running backwards while looking over the rifle and yanking the trigger. You can see his first round hitting the dirt in front of the car. I only saw one hit on the car, at the top of the front windshield; and right after that one, they go back into the dirt to the left of the car.

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    Quote Originally Posted by RWK View Post
    I don't know that I'd call what was displayed "skill" -- running backwards while looking over the rifle and yanking the trigger. You can see his first round hitting the dirt in front of the car. I only saw one hit on the car, at the top of the front windshield; and right after that one, they go back into the dirt to the left of the car.
    He may not have shot accurately on the move, but at least he did move. Had he froze and just kept slapping the trigger he'd be in pieces.
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    Quote Originally Posted by RWK View Post
    I don't know that I'd call what was displayed "skill" -- running backwards while looking over the rifle and yanking the trigger. You can see his first round hitting the dirt in front of the car. I only saw one hit on the car, at the top of the front windshield; and right after that one, they go back into the dirt to the left of the car.
    Please re-read what I wrote. I did not attribute skill to this particular shooter. I attributed being able to shoot on the move, as a skill worth having, and would like to thank folks like Pat Rogers, Larry Vickers, Ken Hackathorn, David Pennington, Tom Alibrando, and all the other quality instructors for drilling us on it repetitively.

    The video illustrates where this "drill" can come in to play, though most of us will never see a VBIED, we may very well be faced with a car coming at us, and having to shoot on the move in the very same way.
    Last edited by SHIVAN; 07-01-10 at 17:01.
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    the one hit we do see might very well have smoked the driver... the vbied blows immediately after a round bounces off the hood. being dead, dropping the detonator, prematurely blowing. i seriously doubt a now-vacated checkpoint was the target.

    i don't think you can expect a high degree of accuracy when popping rounds of as fast as you can while retreating as fast as you can. he at least stayed facing the threat, instead of turning tail and booking it. he probably saved lives.

    all we can do is speculate.
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    There's video floating around of a TN officer that was involved in a shooting during a traffic stop that involved him shooting on the move while backing away from the suspect vehicle. Good reminder of why LEOs need to know how to shoot while moving forward, to the side, and rearward.

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    most men would have frozen in there tracks and died!

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    Quote Originally Posted by RWK View Post
    I don't know that I'd call what was displayed "skill" -- running backwards while looking over the rifle and yanking the trigger. You can see his first round hitting the dirt in front of the car. I only saw one hit on the car, at the top of the front windshield; and right after that one, they go back into the dirt to the left of the car.
    The dude knew what was coming... wanted to get the **** away and still get some shots off... he did ****ing awesome and I don't think many here including you or I could have done better...
    Last edited by NCPatrolAR; 07-02-10 at 01:57. Reason: Edited to prevent a pissing contest

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    Quote Originally Posted by ICANHITHIMMAN View Post
    most men would have frozen in there tracks and died!
    That's why I was illustrating how valuable the skill is to know when to retreat and shoot AND shoot AND shoot....
    "I'm not saying I invented the turtleneck. But I was the first person to realize its potential as a tactical garment. The tactical turtleneck! The... tactleneck! - Sterling Archer"
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    "Courage is not the absence of fear, but rather the judgment that something else is more important
    than one's fear. The timid presume it is lack of fear that allows the brave to act when the timid do not."

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