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Thread: Daniel Defense barrels without barrel nuts?

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    To build the upper using BCM prices and a DD M4 bbl (closeout price) would be:

    BCM Build
    210 DD M4 16" bbl
    13 Carbine gas tube
    9 Bbl nut
    3 Handguard cap
    11 Delta assembly
    99 FSC556
    23 BCM CH
    130 LMT BCG
    94 BCM M4-cut Upper
    $592 TOTAL

    In addition, there would be about $30 to have the FSC556 permanently attached. So true total (without rear sight or handguards) would be about: $622

    Price of assembled BCM 14.5" standard bbl midlength or carbine upper with permanently attached FSC556 (and substituting a BCM BCG for a LMT): $629

    The only way I can shave money off this thing is to substitute a really cheap bbl (non-chrome lined Model 1, Doublestar, or DPMS). So, it looks like BCM has taken away all my fun by making something just as good or better for $7 more.

    I'm going to start another thread on the lower hassles once I get over the fact that my build will not really be a build at all.
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    I’ve only been fooling around with ARs for a couple of years now, and my first barrel swap was earlier this year. But, I’ve really got the bug. Also, my screw ups and misunderstandings have been pretty well documented on this site in my various cries for help.

    As I was trying to decide whether to put together a BCM midlength or a DD M4 carbine, I suddenly realized that I had already built a similar BCM midlength, complete with FSC556, only it is currently in “pre-ban” condition and sitting on a shelf. Converting it to post-ban status would take about a day and $30, and that’s no fun.

    (NOTE: “AW ban” states sorta force you to keep pre-ban with pre-ban, and a post-ban upper on a pre-ban lower is just a waste, so I never thought of this upper as one I would use for the demonstration project.)

    I’ve now ordered a DD M4 bbl (BCM closeout for $210) and upper for the next project. Due to my less-than-great financial circumstances, it will take me a couple of months to get all this together. When I do, I’ll post pics in a separate thread and leave a note here.
    Last edited by Amicus; 07-09-10 at 22:32.
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    Quote Originally Posted by bkb0000 View Post
    we need a smiley with an eyebrow raised in skepticism.

    how are you going to install the gas tube with the FSB pinned? not gonna happen on a carbine. you might get away with it on a middy, but it's still not the proper way, and you're likely to bend it.


    ETA- furthermore, i've never seen a barrel assembly come with the FSB fully pinned
    Um, I have installed MANY carbine gas tubes with the FSB's in place!? No damage to any component ever occurred, nor were any tubes bent. Done properly, its very simple, and safe.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jimbo45 View Post
    Um, I have installed MANY carbine gas tubes with the FSB's in place!? No damage to any component ever occurred, nor were any tubes bent. Done properly, its very simple, and safe.
    Agreed. This is the first time I have ever heard someone say there is an issue with this.

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    Quote Originally Posted by pezboy View Post
    I have installed a gas tube on a carbine length barrel without removing the FSB. I see no reason why you couldn't.
    Dustin
    Quote Originally Posted by Jimbo45 View Post
    Um, I have installed MANY carbine gas tubes with the FSB's in place!? No damage to any component ever occurred, nor were any tubes bent. Done properly, its very simple, and safe.
    Quote Originally Posted by 103 View Post
    Agreed. This is the first time I have ever heard someone say there is an issue with this.
    i guess my memory has failed me

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    Quote Originally Posted by bkb0000 View Post
    i guess my memory has failed me
    That's all right. They tell me the memory is the second thing to go when you grow old

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    Quote Originally Posted by MistWolf View Post
    That's all right. They tell me the memory is the second thing to go when you grow old
    It’s the second, or is it third, thing to go but I can’t remember what the first or second is.

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