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    I use high temp lithium wheel bearing grease. Works much better than CLP and last MUCH longer. It also costs virtually nothing for a lifetime supply from the autoparts store. No problems with it at all. I also use Slip2000 and it works great too.

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    I use grease (high temp lithium wheelbearing grease) from Exxon. I've had no issues with it at all.

    With liberal amounts of CLP, I'm good to max 400 rounds (almost half a day of a shooting class), and then the gun starts getting sluggish because it is dry. With grease, I can go a little farther (500-600 rounds) before enough carbon crud in the carrier begins to give me problems (sluggish to pick up next round).
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    Quote Originally Posted by tiger seven View Post
    TW25B

    Many options to choose from, see here.

    The TW25B grease works well in my Glock, but honestly I have yet to try it in an AR.

    Derek

    TW25B really isn't a grease per se, it is a floropolymer paste and does not burn and curdle like petrol greases.

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    I use Militec-1 lube, Slip2000 Gun Lube or Machine Gunners Lube which ever is closest to me at the time that I can reach. I don't use grease. I re-lube every 3-400 rounds or so and have gone beyond 1200 rounds without cleaning without trouble.
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    On the range I generally use Slip 2000 or Miltec-1. For duty, I apply Tetra grease and Slip 2000 on top of that. I find that Slip2000 by itself will run off/evaporate (CLP is even worse) over time.

    I am not sure what the Tetra stuff is made of but I have not had any problems with it cooking onto the action and causing excesive wear or malfunctions.

    This includes training with over 2500 round in 3 days. Starting off each day with the Tetra & Slip 2000 mix and then applying more Slip 2000 as needed.

    When I run out of the Tetra, I will probably try TW25B, Slip 2000 EWL, or 10-8 moly lube as a duty lube.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Heavy Metal View Post
    TW25B really isn't a grease per se, it is a floropolymer paste and does not burn and curdle like petrol greases.
    It has been my experience that the term "grease" can be applied to any fairly thick, highly viscous substance (even those that are not petroleum-based) used as a lubricant. It merely describes the lubricant's consistency, not its composition. Similarly, there are many lubricants which are described as "oils" that are not petroleum-based either. They are simply a less viscous, more fluid lubricant. The terms are fairly generic in common usage, and the lubricants they describe can be of widely varying compositions.

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    Ive used Wilson's Ultima-lube grease SPARINGLY on the high points of my bolt carrier for years on an AR that spends almost 1/3 of the year baking inside a car in 100+ degree weather. Oils tend to burn off quickly in that environment all on their own. The gun has been exposed to extensive dust (including that fine stuff from wash bottoms here in AZ), as well as flat out dirt and rocks when I was testing Magpuls followers. Im still malfunction free on a gun thats seen a lot of use.

    Were I living some place more temperate, I might not be so inclined to use it.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Lumpy196 View Post
    Ive used Wilson's Ultima-lube grease SPARINGLY on the high points of my bolt carrier for years on an AR that spends almost 1/3 of the year baking inside a car in 100+ degree weather. Oils tend to burn off quickly in that environment all on their own. The gun has been exposed to extensive dust (including that fine stuff from wash bottoms here in AZ), as well as flat out dirt and rocks when I was testing Magpuls followers. Im still malfunction free on a gun thats seen a lot of use.

    Were I living some place more temperate, I might not be so inclined to use it.
    +1 Wilson's Ultima-lube grease in the bolt carrier and CLP in the bolt. This have worked for me flawlesly in hot and humid weather where I live, but I have no experience in cold weather.

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    I'm with Nate on this one.

    The nice thing about oils is that you can add more oil and flush a good deal of dust, carbon, and shooting junk out of the gun. Gunked up grease in a gun takes a little more effort to clean.

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    I know that Bearing or Axle grease has been popular with some trainers as of late.. My experience has been using CLP for well over 20 years with no problems. I also have used Slip 2000 with very good results.
    I do use grease in my M1A and M-1 rifles I use for CMP competitions,
    But my AR's get CLP or Slip 2000 (Or anything else I can get for free)

    I still subscribe to the theory that is is more important when and where you lube vs what you lube with.

    Just my experience

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